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What is wrong with raiding the caravans?

sovietchild

sovietchild

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LuisDantas said:
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It was bloodthirsty. It used monotheism as an excuse for violence and disregard towards other people.
Good for him.
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Disregard towards other people? I thought it was the pagans who used idols as a way to make a living, deceiving others in order to obtain money. Prophet Muhammad made a stop to this anti-social practice.
 
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lewisnotmiller

lewisnotmiller

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sovietchild said:
What is wrong with raiding the caravans which belong to people who constantly beat your people, robbed your people and murdered your people?
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Meh, I'll run a little contrarily.
Nothing, potentially. The devil would be in the details, but my best reading is that it provided material gains as well as a means of unification for peoples who had long been divided.

Weird that God was okay with it I guess, but from a human leader it makes sense to me.
 
sovietchild

sovietchild

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Kirran said:
Yes.
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I don't see a sculpture of Kabba in every house of Muslims. Do you?

When you say Muslims make money out of Kabba are you sure? Saudi Arabia is only about 1% of total Muslim population. Right? Please.
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Rival said:
Is anyone else convinced that sovietchild is Paarsurrey at this point? Or is he just copying Paarsurrey? Right? Please.
Regards.
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What is wrong with that technique? I like Ahmadi's technique.
 
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Jedster

Jedster

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sovietchild said:
I don't see a sculpture of Kabba in every house of Muslims. Do you?

When you say Muslims make money out of Kabba are you sure? Saudi Arabia is only about 1% of total Muslim population. Right? Please.
Regards.



What is wrong with that technique? I like Ahmadi's technique.
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You and the Ahmadi are clearly versions of the same software, albeit with different name parameters.
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YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
sovietchild said:
What is wrong with raiding the caravans which belong to people who constantly beat your people, robbed your people and murdered your people?

What would you do?
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Muslims fail to accept that Muhammad brought all the negativity and persecution onto himself through his relentless preaching in Mecca. Do you think the Polytheists, Christians and Jews were terribly amused by his wild ideas? And at least get it right, the people of Mecca tolerated Muhammad for a very long time. His fanatical followers were not constantly murdered, robbed and beaten. Right? Please
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David1967

David1967

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sovietchild said:
I don't see a sculpture of Kabba in every house of Muslims. Do you?

When you say Muslims make money out of Kabba are you sure? Saudi Arabia is only about 1% of total Muslim population. Right? Please.
Regards.



What is wrong with that technique? I like Ahmadi's technique.
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So you and Paarsurrey are the same person?
 
sayak83

sayak83

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sovietchild said:
Disregard towards other people? I thought it was the pagans who used idols as a way to make a living, deceiving others in order to obtain money. Prophet Muhammad made a stop to this anti-social practice.
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Oh yes! Please see how these idol-makers are becoming millionaires and billionaires by fleecing the poor superstitious people by making idols and calling them Gods! o_O

Meet Kumortuli, the Potter’s Quarter of Calcutta | We Blog The World

The godmakers of Kumartuli

“I've been making idols ever since I was 18 or 20,” Gobinda, now 40, tells his story without stopping his work. “It takes about four days to create an idol” — he is talking about the goddess' children. “But Durga's idol takes about a week. Each year I make about 20 idols.” I ask Gobinda if he always wanted to be an idol-maker.

“I didn't have a choice. Lekha-pora to sikhtey paareni (I could not get education). This profession may not give me a good life, but it gives me what I need — two square meals a day. I have no one to look after; my parents are dead and I am single. So I am able to manage,” he says.

“It all depends on skill and experience. Some of us get Rs. 1,000, some get Rs. 2,000 ($30), some others a little more. Food and lodging are provided by the employer.” A pittance, but, as he says, they don't have a choice.
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In contrast to
The economics of Hajj: Money and pilgrimage - BBC News

The annual occasion has become a lucrative business in recent years, proving a great financial asset to the economy of the oil-rich kingdom.

Many pilgrims, however, struggle to reconcile their spiritual needs with their wallets.

Mohammed Zayan, a 53-year-old pilgrim from Tunisia, has waited a lifetime to perform the religious obligation, which does not come free.

"I spent up to $6,000 (£3,700) on my Hajj," says Mr Zayan, who wears the traditional white pilgrims' clothes.

"I thank God that he enabled me to save this amount of money but I'm sad I could not afford taking my wife and son with me."

The millions who come to Mecca every year bring billions of dollars to the Saudi economy.
Restaurants, travel agents, airlines and mobile phone companies all earn big bucks during the Hajj, and the government benefits in the form of taxes.

Last year, the 10-day event generated some $10bn (£6.2bn), according to the Chamber of Commerce in Mecca.
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Owners of hotels close to the main mosque ask for $700 a night, blaming the skyrocketing prices of land for the sharp rise in rates.

"I have been investing in this sector for 35 years. I remember when I first sold a metre of land in Mecca for just 15 rials ($3), now it has reached 80,000 rials ($22,000)," said Mohamed Saed al-Jahni, one of Mecca's real estate tycoons.
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Selling Mecca souvenirs is another very lucrative business during the Hajj.

There are no official estimates for this profitable trade, but it is believed to bring hundreds of millions of dollars every year.
"These are blessed souvenirs," he says, holding a bead he just bought at almost three times its original price outside the city.

The price of Mecca souvenirs is often eye-wateringly high and most of the products like prayer mats and beads are not made in the city, but rather in China.
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Rival

Rival

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Can you imagine if Jesus or The Buddha raided a caravan and killed the driver?

No, me neither.
 
YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
sayak83 said:
Oh yes! Please see how these idol-makers are becoming millionaires and billionaires by fleecing the poor superstitious people by making idols and calling them Gods! o_O

Meet Kumortuli, the Potter’s Quarter of Calcutta | We Blog The World

The godmakers of Kumartuli
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Well those articles certainly made me reach for a hammer. Never seen an idol I didn't wanna smash.



sayak83 said:
In contrast to
The economics of Hajj: Money and pilgrimage - BBC News
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Oh, that's low... it's not like they are doing it for the money, that's just a fringe benefit from being buds with Allah.
 
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