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What is wrong with raiding the caravans?

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Ah -- you're talking about a specific raid. I'm talking about morality in general, and the tribal morality of Arabic Bedouins in particular.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
If your morality is tribal; if right and wrong are only meaningful within your own little group, I suppose this could be seen as OK. But this seems a very retarded, primitive morality. I thought Muhammad's message was anti-tribal; that all were brothers in a universal Ummah, and shared a common morality.

You're obviously forgetting that Muhammad's message and the common morality he promoted was only universal among Muslims. If you're an infidel then the gloves can come off and you can expect it to be bloody.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Some users of this forum paint Prophet Muhammad as a thief or a hypocrite, because he raided the caravans which belonged to Mecca pagans.

What is wrong with raiding the caravans which belong to people who constantly beat your people, robbed your people and murdered your people?

I dunno...can you provide examples of the people on the caravans doing these things?
 

Ashraf

Member
Raiding the caravans of your enemies is nothing wrong given they themselves would do the same to your caravans. In times of war, that is 100% justified
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Raiding the caravans of your enemies is nothing wrong given they themselves would do the same to your caravans.

This is an assumption. What if they do not raid your caravans?

In times of war, that is 100% justified

Based on merely an assertion is not justification, it is an assertion.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Raiding the caravans of your enemies is nothing wrong given they themselves would do the same to your caravans. In times of war, that is 100% justified
War does not change moral obligations or principles. War itself is an atrocity. If theft is wrong in peacetime, it's wrong in war.

Preying on those who prey on you creates an eternal state of warfare and strife. Is perpetual war, death and economic insecurity really God's plan for mankind?
 
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