What is wrong with sharia law?

[Notanumber]

Many hundreds of millions of Muslims disagree with your interpretation of Islam.

And you know what, their understandings of Islam are easily as valid as yours are. More, really.

It is not my interpretation of Islam. I am no expert, which is why I refer to those that are and have spent years studying it.

If you were correct then it would seem that most Islamists do not understand what they are worshiping.

 

[Kirran]

It is not my interpretation of Islam. I am no expert, which is why I refer to those that are and have spent years studying it.

If you were correct then it would seem that most Islamists do not understand what they are worshiping.

And there are also just as experienced and sincere and devout Muslims who aren't Islamists, and who are liberal and progressive etc.

 

[Notanumber]

And there are also just as experienced and sincere and devout Muslims who aren't Islamists, and who are liberal and progressive etc.

Do they believe in Allah and follow the teachings of the Quran?

 

[Kirran]

Do they believe in Allah and follow the teachings of the Quran?

Yes, and per their own understanding yeah.

Ever read anything by Michael Muhammad Knight? For an extreme!

 

[LuisDantas]

So where's a democracy?

Scandinavia, mostly.

 

[LuisDantas]

I don't get it !

Did they deny that there is homosexual people turned to straight ?

Yes, they did. Not that I would need their support, mind you, but they did.

If there are any, they are (statiscally speaking) very much aberrations.

But I am willing to bet that all or nearly all of those cases you speak of are in truth just violence inflicted upon the people. I have seen it happen.

IF yes
Why should WHO deny the fact that many of homosexual people turned to straight ?

Because they do not want to lie, and also because it would be a cruel thing to do.

 

[Notanumber]

Yes, and per their own understanding yeah.

Ever read anything by Michael Muhammad Knight? For an extreme!

This man has a greater understanding about Islam.

Moderate Muslims Are Not the Solution to Radical Islam - Political Islam

 

[Notanumber]

Scandinavia, mostly.

 

[Kirran]

This man has a greater understanding about Islam.

Moderate Muslims Are Not the Solution to Radical Islam - Political Islam

Right, so you pick someone who agrees with your view and say he knows best. That's very circular reasoning.

Furthermore, you seem to have the idea there's some "true Islam" and we're trying to figure out what it is here. There are plenty of Muslims who don't believe this, so why you would as a non-Muslim is beyond me.

 

[Notanumber]

Right, so you pick someone who agrees with your view and say he knows best. That's very circular reasoning.

Furthermore, you seem to have the idea there's some "true Islam" and we're trying to figure out what it is here. There are plenty of Muslims who don't believe this, so why you would as a non-Muslim is beyond me.

No, I agree with his view.

There is only one Islam. Someone is either an Islamist or they are not an Islamist. There is no in-between state.

Muslims for Progressive Values have some good policies, but those policies are not Islamic.

It is because I am a non-Islamist and have no wish to be forced into becoming one, which makes me concerned.

I am an Infidel and proud of it, but I have no desire to force others to join by trying to implement Laws that would assist that cause.

 

[Kirran]

No, I agree with his view.

There is only one Islam. Someone is either an Islamist or they are not an Islamist. There is no in-between state.

Muslims for Progressive Values have some good policies, but those policies are not Islamic.

It is because I am a non-Islamist and have no wish to be forced into becoming one, which makes me concerned.

I am an Infidel and proud of it, but I have no desire to force others to join by trying to implement Laws that would assist that cause.

But who are you to say what it Islamic, or to say that X person's views on Islam are correct and Y's are wrong? Why do you feel can say so with any legitimacy?

Sure, you can be an Islamist or not be an Islamist. But you can not be an Islamist and still be a Muslim.

 

[Notanumber]

But who are you to say what it Islamic, or to say that X person's views on Islam are correct and Y's are wrong? Why do you feel can say so with any legitimacy?

Sure, you can be an Islamist or not be an Islamist. But you can not be an Islamist and still be a Muslim.

I am only reporting it. The information is there for all to see.

 

[Kirran]

I am only reporting it. The information is there for all to see.

But you're not reporting it, you're making claims about whose interpretation of the religion is right and whose is wrong. That's not a provable matter, it's about doctrine.

 

[Notanumber]

But you're not reporting it, you're making claims about whose interpretation of the religion is right and whose is wrong. That's not a provable matter, it's about doctrine.

We are all guilty of commenting on things that we see. It is a form of free speech.

You can disregard anything I say if you like, just rely on the evidence provided.

 

[Kirran]

We are all guilty of commenting on things that we see. It is a form of free speech.

You can disregard anything I say if you like, just rely on the evidence provided.

I'm not talking about commenting, I'm talking your baseless assertion of the inherent validity of one form of a doctrine which is not your own to begin with.

 

[Notanumber]

I'm not talking about commenting, I'm talking your baseless assertion of the inherent validity of one form of a doctrine which is not your own to begin with.

That is the point; I do not want it to be mine, ever!

I am allowed to comment or make assertions about murderers for instance without being one.

 

[Kirran]

That is the point; I do not want it to be mine, ever!

I am allowed to comment or make assertions about murderers for instance without being one.

Well of course, there's no reason you need be Muslim. But it's misleading to assert that 'Islam is X' when that's only the form of the doctrine which you seek to validate and promote. Plenty of Muslims disagree with your understanding of the religion, and their voices are more valid than yours as a non-Muslim trying to impose your vision onto Islam so as to demonise it.

 

[Notanumber]

Well of course, there's no reason you need be Muslim. But it's misleading to assert that 'Islam is X' when that's only the form of the doctrine which you seek to validate and promote. Plenty of Muslims disagree with your understanding of the religion, and their voices are more valid than yours as a non-Muslim trying to impose your vision onto Islam so as to demonise it.

It does not need me to demonise it. It is more than capable of doing that for itself.

If you are Islamic, you have to follow the Quran. If you follow the Quran, you cannot call yourself a Moderate Muslim.

The Quran's Verses of Violence

Watch this video then come back.

 

[Kirran]

It does not need me to demonise it. It is more than capable of doing that for itself.

If you are Islamic, you have to follow the Quran. If you follow the Quran, you cannot call yourself a Moderate Muslim.

The Quran's Verses of Violence

Watch this video then come back.

Right, that's your take. Why are you so arrogant as to say that your take is the right one, when plenty of perfectly sincere and devout Muslims have different ones?

 

[Notanumber]

Right, that's your take. Why are you so arrogant as to say that your take is the right one, when plenty of perfectly sincere and devout Muslims have different ones?

If you watched the video, I would value your comments.