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What is wrong with sharia law?

Brian Schuh

Well-Known Member
Then how is it you are not aware that a liberal in the 1700's is entirely not anything close to a liberal today? And did you comprehend my post that you allegedly read? No government I am aware of has ever wrote a provision in their constitution for armed revolution except the USA in our 2nd amendment. The liberalism of that time, the 1700's 1800's and even prior resulted in the Bill of Rights.

But should I have to educate you on this, don't you already know?
Oh, I meant "has ever written" not has ever wrote. A typo.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Like cutting hands for stealing

You know, my parents once tried to teach me not to steal with that. Specifically the scene from Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves when a guy gets his hand cut off for stealing. You know what it taught me?

Don't get caught. And I didn't.

Your solution is not a solution.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
No Government has ever encouraged armed insurrection.

Yes they have. The Declaration of Independence states "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
 

wicketkeeper

Living From the Heart.
That's what we did. We could not stand England's outdated laws, so we founded America.

Well I am happy for you Brian. So you where there when it all began ? My your old !

As for me, I'm more than happy where I am. From the US news reports I see, I would say I'm in the better country and things aren't brilliant here with a CONservative government which has the blood of many innocent victims on its hands, at home and abroad(as has the USA - I smile when I here folk say - 'we live in the land of the brave and the free'). Mind you, this place maybe a milder hell than the next !!!
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Well I am happy for you Brian. So you where there when it all began ? My your old !

As for me, I'm more than happy where I am. From the US news reports I see, I would say I'm in the better country and things aren't brilliant here with a CONservative government which has the blood of many innocent victims on its hands, at home and abroad(as has the USA - I smile when I here folk say - 'we live in the land of the brave and the free'). Mind you, this place maybe a milder hell than the next !!!

Depends where you are in the USA and where you are in the UK, geographically and socially. The UK isn't so amazing either politically.

The idea that so many people in the USA have about their country being the most just, fair, free and/or equal in the world is somewhat odd.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
But there is! There are plenty of countries which enforce sharia law.
Yes,most of Muslim countries follow sharia law,where is the problem ?

I guess in West, when you heard "Sharia law" you just recall, "stone by death, and abuse woman ...etc ",right ?




So for example if a Muslim in the British Army who has been deployed to Iraq leaves Islam and defects to the other side, is it cool to kill them? Who should kill them? Should the British Army set up a committee specially dedicated to making sure to execute soldiers leaving Islam who defect?
You seems missed my point about religious war.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Yes,most of Muslim countries follow sharia law,where is the problem ?

I guess in West, when you heard "Sharia law" you just recall, "stone by death, and abuse woman ...etc ",right ?

You said that an imperfect interpretation can't be enforced on people, but obviously it is because lots of countries have different forms of sharia law enforced. So something's up.

You seems missed my point about religious war.

OK, so can you give me a fleshed-out example of when it would be OK to kill someone for leaving Islam?
 

Brian Schuh

Well-Known Member
I saw a video being circulated widely on Facebook of a Muslim woman being decapitated by sword with Arabic police standing by. The video said, see how Muslims treat women?

So I did some research and discovered that the woman was convicted of murdering her son.

And it was a more humane execution than any in the States!
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
You said that an imperfect interpretation can't be enforced on people, but obviously it is because lots of countries have different forms of sharia law enforced. So something's up.
Not much different,I can say we are on commun/agreement than disagreement.



OK, so can you give me a fleshed-out example of when it would be OK to kill someone for leaving Islam?
It's already happened in Islam history,when some polytheist convert to Islam,then when war comes between Muslims VS polytheists, so some of those Muslim convert(back) to polytheism as betraying,to fight Muslims.(to go to side on enemy).

There is some reference in Sirah,some Muslims convert(back) to polytheism,they don't kill them,because they don't had the intention to be enemy.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Not much different,I can say we are on commun/agreement than disagreement.

It's nice when that happens :)

It's already happened in Islam history,when some polytheist convert to Islam,then when war comes between Muslims VS polytheists, so some of those Muslim convert(back) to polytheism as betraying,to fight Muslims.(to go to side on enemy).

There is some reference in Sirah,some Muslims convert(back) to polytheism,they don't kill them,because they don't had the intention to be enemy.

I have heard of the Ridda Wars. But OK, so say somebody switches side, but doesn't change their religion? i.e. they are fighting on the other side in the war now but are still Muslim? Do you kill them?
 

Brian Schuh

Well-Known Member
Which criminal "justice" system is that, exactly?
All of the just ones. Eye for eye and tooth for tooth means the punishment fits the crime. And it is not literal.

You don't retaliate by taking 2 teeth for only one tooth. It is exact compensation. If I steal a dollar, I repay a dollar. It is the gentlest justice.
 
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