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What is wrong with those people who don't believe in God?
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sovietchild
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I actually like that. I'm gonna right that down.
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
Nothing wrong.
You don't have to believe in god and worship him to be a good person.
Just saying.
You don't have to believe in god and worship him to be a good person.
Just saying.
Ben Avraham
Well-Known Member
I think that's because they are afraid to be conscious of something to account for their transgressions of the Law.
I have heard that as well. It is quite off the mark.
Ben Avraham
Well-Known Member
What then is to shoot right on the target? Do you have any idea you could share with me?
HonestJoe
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@sovietchild
You never addressed my question of what you'd do if god revealed themselves to be something entirely different to what you believe them to be.
You never addressed my question of what you'd do if god revealed themselves to be something entirely different to what you believe them to be.
My pleasure.
Belief in deities is a deeply personal and entirely optional thing, and it connects with each person's specific inclinations in the fields of symbolism and motivation.
Despite often-repeated insistence to the contrary, there is good reason to doubt that there is much resemblance in the deity conceptions of any two given people, nor in their beliefs about those deities if they happen to have any.
In a nutshell, belief in the literal existence of a deity is a minor, optional accessory of religious practice that many people mistake (often passionately) for a central feature.
We all are that much poorer for it, because over-emphasis on deities is quite corruptive. It leads people to feel unduly entitled to all forms of abuses and destructive judgements.
Aye, I'd forgotten that one.
- I disbelieve in God because I want to get away with sinning.
What's wrong people who don't believe in God?
The same thing as those who don't believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. We (mostly) grew up in homes or surroundings where we absorbed these ideas when we were very young, and as we aged and asked questions, we dropped those beliefs because they didn't square with the reality we could see.
And those, like me, who made the same observation about all the claims for God that likewise didn't square with what we knew, we dropped that belief, too.
The same thing as those who don't believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. We (mostly) grew up in homes or surroundings where we absorbed these ideas when we were very young, and as we aged and asked questions, we dropped those beliefs because they didn't square with the reality we could see.
And those, like me, who made the same observation about all the claims for God that likewise didn't square with what we knew, we dropped that belief, too.
And yet, it often seems to work surprisingly well.
It depends on how God revealed God's self to be honest. yes those are likely to happen though.
Also knowing God exist doesn't mean one would worship or follow god.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
I could be quite wrong, but I rather think that that was an unexpected bonus. It was probably after they saw people bending to their will that thoughts of unbridled power came to the fore.
Yerda
Veteran Member
@sovietchild , I can't speak for all the other atheists but I'm a bit sleepy. And it's not even dinner time.
What's up with you?
What's up with you?
Rational Agnostic
Well-Known Member
Depends on what type of "revelation" you're referring to. But since the scenario you describe is extremely unlikely to occur, it is really not worth speculating about.
They should.
"Knowing" and "believing" are what we have about the creation, not of "God." None of these words can apply to "God."
sovietchild
Well-Known Member
I don't understand your question. Entirely different like how? He is The Maker of Order. Are you saying that He is not the maker of order? I don't really understand it because The Creator is The Maker of Order and He is The Shaper of Beauty. He created the universe, The Knower of All. The Hidden One. What is entirely different? Like ugly? Well then that means you ugly. If you think of Allah bad then you are bad. If you think of Allah good then you are good.
He is The Light. He is The Protecting Friend. Are you saying entirely different that he is an enemy? If Allah is your enemy then you are our own enemy.
The Prophet ﷺ said that “One of the signs of excellence of one’s worship is thinking well of Allah (swt).”
“A true believer is one who thinks well of Allah (swt) and therefore does good, whereas the disobedient one thinks bad of Allah (swt) and therefore does bad.”
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Their DNA contains an excess of the rhetoric gene.
buddhist
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Brahma is a deity in Buddhist cosomology; he is said to possess immense powers, lifespan, vitality, etc. Though he is vastly superior in many ways compared to beings in realms lower than his, he is however only a limited deity among many, in that he will eventually die (after a number of aeons), and there are limits to his power (which cannot affect realms higher than his).
If a being like Brahma appeared before us in all his glory and power and delusionally or maliciously pronounce that he is "God", how would you suggest that we distinguish between him and "Almighty God"?
It is indeed difficult to guess what would be considered a revelation, and therefore how specific atheists would react to it.
Of course there are many who claim that there were already revelations from God - but as expected, those tend not to be atheists to begin with.
So the question in the OP is ultimately a variation of "Is it conceivable that God might reveal Himself in such a way that atheists would have to acknowledge his existence?"
A rather vague question, and of very questionable usefulness. Technically, most atheists recognize that Haile Selassie existed, for instance. But that is not exactly the harbinger of profound changes in our worldview.