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What justification can there be for the Paris massacre?
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Levite
Higher and Higher
There is no justification for what transpired in Paris, of course. There is never a justification for that kind of terrorism. The motivations behind the terrorists are irrelevant: that sort of causeless mass violence against unarmed civilians just going about their daily business is just insanity.
maggie2
Active Member
How can anyone justify what was done in Paris? There is no justification for killing innocent people. And the sad thing is that these terrorists are using religion as an excuse for their murderous ways. This puts a bad face on Islam and makes many people hesitate to accept the Muslim faith. I do think it is time, however, that moderate Muslims speak out against such savagery. Muslims who feel that was was done in Paris is wrong need to assert their feelings on the situation.
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
Why did you find it important to mention that? I just feel like I hear a really old dog whistle.
Also you misspelled the phrase.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
I thought you were talking about the paris massacre of 1961. Thanks for informing me about this.
So disgusting! So how often do we see Christians or Jews committing these terrorist acts in the name of God? I know most muslims don't approve of this, but this keeps happening over and over again in so many different countries and how rare is it done by Jews or Christians.
So, I start threads about Muhammad behavior and lifestyle and stating that Sharia law and the policies that Muhammad promoted are a threat to our world, and received a pm that it was a violation of the no bullying no trolling rule here.
I believe that Muhammads policies and his behavior are what fuels these acts of terror and present the evidence for it and am told it is a violation of the rules.
Why?
So disgusting! So how often do we see Christians or Jews committing these terrorist acts in the name of God? I know most muslims don't approve of this, but this keeps happening over and over again in so many different countries and how rare is it done by Jews or Christians.
So, I start threads about Muhammad behavior and lifestyle and stating that Sharia law and the policies that Muhammad promoted are a threat to our world, and received a pm that it was a violation of the no bullying no trolling rule here.
I believe that Muhammads policies and his behavior are what fuels these acts of terror and present the evidence for it and am told it is a violation of the rules.
Why?
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john2054
Member
why did i mention that they were muslims? oh dear; i really hate it how people try to justify this kind of terror!
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
If you have questions, generally they tell you to go to Site Feedback and create a thread to discuss it with staff. You aren't going to get answers out here and it's just looking for attention.
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
You didn't mention they were Muslims and I didn't justify anything.
Although if you think I was justifying something, please quote it.
Still hearing that whistle though.
NulliuSINverba
Active Member
There's certainly no justification that'd make sense to anyone with a sense of humor or an appreciation for free speech. Who knows? Remove both of those elements from the equation and perhaps it'll start to make sense?
Sure there is. It's called "religion." It's a justification for all manner of deplorable behavior.
Isn't it a mistake to dismiss out of hand the grievances of those reduced to committing acts of terrorism? Isn't it also best to remember that terrorism is an attempt to make certain motivations relevant?
In any event, terrorism does seem like an act of desperation.
One single gun massacre equals "mass violence against unarmed civilians?" Perhaps France needs to come spend some "toughen up" time in the United States public school system, n'est pas?
I do think that mass violence against unarmed civilians should be universally condemned. Especially when it's perpetrated by the governments of nation states. Wouldn't you agree?
Levite
Higher and Higher
Still not interested in anti-religion trolling, thanks.
NulliuSINverba
Active Member
The reply was in the context of the larger discussion and wasn't necessarily for your benefit. You are cordially invited to ignore my responses to your posts. Thanks.
Avi1001
reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
The other thread on Paris seems to have died.
I would like to hear more Muslim response on this. On the other thread Godobeyer responded, but did not respond to my follow up questions.....I am not blaming Muslims....I just want deeper understanding...!!!!
I would like to hear more Muslim response on this. On the other thread Godobeyer responded, but did not respond to my follow up questions.....I am not blaming Muslims....I just want deeper understanding...!!!!
BSM1
What? Me worry?
kba
This brings up a question that has been on my mind. Suppose you are sitting in a restaurant and a masked man dressed in black comes in screaming "Allahu Akbar", do you feel you would be justified in taking this guy out with a chair, steak knife, or any other weapon you could put your hands on-- just in case?
This brings up a question that has been on my mind. Suppose you are sitting in a restaurant and a masked man dressed in black comes in screaming "Allahu Akbar", do you feel you would be justified in taking this guy out with a chair, steak knife, or any other weapon you could put your hands on-- just in case?
NulliuSINverba
Active Member
I dunno. Where's the restaurant located?
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
The freedom to mock is crucially important, Moslems must respect this right, it is a crucial and pivotal element of Western society. We must at all costs retain the right to make fun of those in power and even the gods themselves - otherwise we are reduced to slaves.
Killing a cartoonist for making fun is anathema to a free society.
Killing a cartoonist for making fun is anathema to a free society.
Pink Top Hat
Active Member
The first person killed by them was a Muslim. In fact two of the 12 were Muslims. 1/6th of the victims were Muslims. I heard that they were radicalized over Abu Ghraib torturing by US soldiers. I suppose if US marines are wiring your genitals to the national grid you might get a bit upset over it and try to take some kind of revenge. There is also a lot of chatter about it coming days after France voting YES in the UN that made Netanyahu go crazy and demand an explanation and a payback for doing that. There was the 9/11 element where in all of it suddenly an ID turns up like the 9/11 passport in millions of tons of rubble. There is the part where the French revealed the names of suspects only to find one of them was at school at the time and found out about it on Twitter. These professional gunmen who apparently after the shooting travelled back home to their address. So many stories coming out. One thing is for certain though. Charlie Hebdo got the reaction they wanted. They don't do what they do not to get a reaction. It's just that they didn't like that reaction but it was a reaction all the same. People screaming about their rights to free speech. Funny that. Sarkozy didn't waste any time in arresting for anti semitism John Galliano in a Paris cafe when he exercised his rights to free speech. Who was outraged and burning candles for him? You see it's all so hypocritical. John Mc cain could have been the one who supplied these so called islamists when they were in Syria last year. It's confusing now isn't it for Westerners knowing what rebels are the good ones and what ones are the bad ones and who to arm and who not too. Gaddafi and Assad were right. The USA and it's allies were arming 'rats and cockroaches and Al Qaeda'. Their citizens fell in line with the Western media and now they seem to be realising that Gaddafi and Assad were right all along and the Americans and Israelis and French and British were stirring a hornets nest in backing insane salafist groups. they knew exactly what they were doing. The USA still refuse to back El Sisi in declaring the MB a terrorist group even though they know full well they are terrorists.
Pink Top Hat
Active Member
Try shouting some anti semitic slogans in Paris cafes and see how quick they arrest you. See how much they respect your crucial rights. It's all bull****.