My parents give me life, Bassist.
I'm well aware of the reality of sexual reproduction. I just don't see what it has to do with God as the source of existence.
You bible just a bunch of superstitious and with very little understanding of the world, of nature.
Do you have any real point to make? You don't like Christianity, I get it. But this is a discussion of Christianity nonetheless.
And for another, I didn't say that we can do what we please with out life, so this is argument of yours, is straw man.
I said that the point of our free will is to enable our moral accountability. But for accountability to be meaningful there must be a law. When I bring this law up, you call it oppression.
All I am saying, is that I should not be punished for what I think, feel or believe...OR what I don't think, feel or believe...depending on the question or claim.
You really ought to learn about what Catholicism teaches before you attack it. It does not teach that a mere failure to be Catholic (or even Christian) will result in Hell. What will result in Hell is the obstinate refusal of the truth to the extent that you are
culpable. This is only something God can judge. And you accuse me of stawmans.
And I ONLY know what I have learned and experienced. You want me to believe in invisible, all-powerful, all-knowing god, then where is the fricking hell is he?
I don't 'want' you to believe anything. You're the the one who engaged me. But if you'd like a tip in finding God, you can start though prayer, fasting, reading of the Scriptures and listing to holy music (chant) and the divine liturgy. (I personally recommend the Tridentine or Byzantine liturgies). Most importantly however is the humility to be
sincerely open to the possibility of God. Otherwise it'd all be for naught. God is revealed through faith. Not blind fundamentalist fideism, but a lifelong commitment to belief, reason and practice.
But whom am I kidding? You have no such interest. And I need to improve in all of this myself as well. I've been inexcusably lazy the past few weeks.
If a girl believe in the Easter bunny or a fairy, and she die, would God punished her believing in them and not Him?
After all, according to your bible, believing anything or anyone other than him, is consider a sin. Would God torment for all eternity, because she believe in something else?
Are you sure it's me and my faith that's the problem? You seem to be expressing a ridiculous caricature of it. It makes me think that you don't really grasp what I'm really saying and what I actually believe. And your tone tells me you don't actually care to really understand. Which is fine, but it makes for futile discussion if all you really want to do is to lash-out.
Before the inquisition, Charlemagne put to death, who goodness' know how many pagan Saxons, who didn't convert, and the Pope at that time, praise the Frankish king for doing good work on behalf of that Church of yours, and in the name of Jesus or your nonexistent deity.
Oh please, none of that faux-outrage over events that occurred in the ninth century. It's tiresome. There's nothing to repent over, ninth century Europe was a very different world. I'm sorry if humanistic values weren't as practised back as we'd have it. The mediaevals weren't evil. Charlemagne and the feudal warlords like him were products of their own historical contexts. It's no scandal to admit that we have progressed for the better in many respects.
And yeah, whether you want to admit it or not the so call crimes of the Church are no where near as pervasive and context free as those with an anti-Christian axe to grind would have us believe. History is complicated, grow up.
Do you remember what Jesus said...that it is a sin to "look" at another woman, even if nothing happen between you and that woman. Seriously, how can anyone not sin with such oppressive and restrictive rule.
It's actually impossible to do without the grace of God. I fail to live to the Christian ideal all the time. In fact, I'm arguably failing now by getting dragged in to what is clearly becoming a futile discussion. (So unless you have a real point to make this will be my last response to you). Conversion is a lifelong process, and yeah, we stumble from time to time. But as a Catholic I'm blessed with the Sacraments. One of the most important is Confession. It exists because the Christian path really is that demanding. You're not expected to live a perfect life. You're expected to do your very best in trying.
And there lie the illogical stupidity of the Christian doctrine.
Where? That it's demanding? So far you've expressed nothing but a caricature of Christian belief. So your insights regarding Christian illogic don't fill me with confidence.
