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What makes Putin tick:

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
This seems to be an argument that European countries
aiding Ukraine to defend itself against Russian invasion
is illegal. Is this your basis for opposition to giving weapons
to Ukraine? Or is it that Ukraine shouldn't use deadly force
to defend itself?

I heard that Putin 's conditions are sensible .
Why just not accept his conditions?
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
The German Constitutional Court has pointed out several times how the EU treaties and NATO go too far. They cross the line.
[citation needed]

We have worse constitutional problems than that.
We still have US bases here, namely Rammstein. We know the US uses Rammstein to relay drone operator commands (and possibly drone operators in Rammstein). The bases are not extraterritorial but rented off so that German law applies. US drone strikes are obviously against article 26 (preparation and conduction of an attack war, or, sometimes, simple murder).
Why are the bases still here? We ask the Amis if they do something illegal on the ground they have rented, they say "no" and we pretend to believe them. And that is OK with the Bundesverfassungsgericht.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
[citation needed]

We have worse constitutional problems than that.
We still have US bases here, namely Rammstein. We know the US uses Rammstein to relay drone operator commands (and possibly drone operators in Rammstein). The bases are not extraterritorial but rented off so that German law applies. US drone strikes are obviously against article 26 (preparation and conduction of an attack war, or, sometimes, simple murder).
Why are the bases still here? We ask the Amis if they do something illegal on the ground they have rented, they say "no" and we pretend to believe them. And that is OK with the Bundesverfassungsgericht.

BVG May 5 2020.
It was a historic moment that finally made people understand how rotten the Troika is.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
There is no sense in that conspiracy theory. Russia is not the US antagonist the USSR was. The real contender for world domination is China and the US would do better in securing friendship with Russia in that upcoming conflict.
That ship has sailed I would say
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I fail to see the relevance regarding weapons send to Ukraine.

I am not the only one who says it is uncostitutional.
Here they are saying it is not compatible with art. 11 of our Constitution.
We all want this war to finish immediately.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I guess Putin just wants Crimea and Donbas.
And all the Soros stuff to get out of Ukraine, of course
I think he also wants a demilitarised Ukraine - so they will not be a threat to Russia, but the larger and more militarised one (Russia) can be a threat to the Ukraine. So how is that at all sane let alone fair?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I do.
The only help I can provide is humanitarian aid and diplomatic solutions.
This means that it's better (more ethical?) to let the
Russian missiles land, destroy buildings, & kill Ukrainians
than to render Russian missiles harmless. Most odd.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
This means that it's better (more ethical?) to let the
Russian missiles land, destroy buildings, & kill Ukrainians
than to render Russian missiles harmless. Most odd.

Well...as far as I know...the last missile hit a Russian majority city...Donetsk.
And the perpetrators were not Russians.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I'm having trouble discerning just what point
you're making because so many posts seem
like either non-sequiturs or counter-points or
something else. I don't know which.

I am saying that Ukrainians launched a rocket onto civilians in Donetsk.
Few days ago.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I am saying that Ukrainians launched a rocket onto civilians in Donetsk.
Few days ago.
Evidence?

And is this to justify your view that Ukrainians should not
be using anti-missile systems against Russian missiles?
The missiles should be allowed to land in Ukraine?
 
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