Bravo...Americans will. Europeans will not.
If you think Europeans will be dragged into this war ....well...maybe in a parallel universe.
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Bravo...Americans will. Europeans will not.
If you think Europeans will be dragged into this war ....well...maybe in a parallel universe.
Many Europeans are also doing the right thing, eg,
sending weapons to Ukraine kill the invaders,
imposing economic sanctions against Russia.
Ref...
Every Single Weapon Europe Is Sending to Ukraine (So Far)
What weapons have other countries supplied to Ukraine?
And even Italy joins up...
Italy joins growing list of weapon donors to help Ukraine’s defense
Do you oppose Ukraine defending itself?
Do you oppose other nations aiding Ukraine?
Who?
Ah...the Goldman Sachs Banker whose surname means dragons.
He is not "Europeans" . He is a stateless banker.
And that is a violaton of the article 11 of the Constitution.
And I will point it out before a third and impartial judge.
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The links I posted listed countries, including Italy.
So yes, Europe is cooperating in defending Ukraine.
It is uncostitutional.
Against article 11 of the Constitution.
Giving weapons to either side. So even aiding Russia would have been uncostitutional...to make clear I am impartial.
My country has already welcome 35,000 Ukrainian refugees.
As I said...you cannot help by the means of warlike acts.
So Italy is violating its own constitution, eh.
Aside from that, do you oppose helping
Ukraine to repel the invaders?
Do you favor denying Ukraine any weapons,
thereby letting Russia conquer them easily?
Germany is too.
Against article 26 of their own Constitution.
The only way to help them is working day and night on a diplomatic solution, hiring tens of lawyers and diplomats that can help convince both side to stop immediately all military operations and find a compromise.
War means more deaths, more money wasted, and more tragedies.
You oppose any country sending weapons to Ukraine.
Ukraine without weapons.
Russia bombing them week after week.
Negotiation under such conditions means Ukraine's
unconditional surrender after massive destruction.
And it risks inspiring Putin to invade more countries.
Very bad idea.
Russian TV discusses plans to invade Baltic states as Nato sends in more troops
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Heyo
Veteran Member
As I already said, it isn't against Article 26, though it is against decades old policy.
And I'm not happy with Germany sending weapons into active war zones. It is bad precedent.
A pacifist and bold move would be to send humanitarian aid, food, water, medical supplies and Red Cross battalions, ideally with a UN mandate and ask Putin if he is willing to attack German Red Cross missions.
Because their goal is not to end this war.
Their goal is to provoke more deaths, more destruction...to unleash WW3.
Signed: Soros and all siding with him.
Btw...it is against art 26 of the Constitution.
It is a very clear article.
Sending weapons is an act of war.
Sending humanitarian aid is an act of peace.
Trying to achieve peace with war is like trying to extinguish a fire with liters of vodka.
Peace is achieved with peace.
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Peace is a good method when practiced by both sides.
But Russia invaded Ukraine. It's killing people & bombing
everything in sight. Ukraine being peaceful won't stop it.
Ukraine destroying the invading Russian military just might.
I'm not a Christian. I don't believe in turning the other cheek,
beating swords into plowshares, or namby pamby pacifism
I'm a non-aggressionist. I believe in self defense.
Let the aggressor eat death.
Heyo
Veteran Member
That will be the task of the "Bundesverfassungsgericht" to decide - if someone wants to call them. So far no-one in Germany has done so and you have no standing here. And I'm not the only one to question the decision but even all the opponents agree that it's wrong or dumb - but not unconstitutional.
The German Constitutional Court has pointed out several times how the EU treaties and NATO go too far. They cross the line.
Our Corte Costituzionale is very politicized, unfortunately.
You brought up Christianity.
Very well.
Mu country is the beacon of Christianity.
They will not fight against a leader who is considered the defender of Christendom.
This seems to be an argument that European countries
aiding Ukraine to defend itself against Russian invasion
is illegal. Is this your basis for opposition to giving weapons
to Ukraine? Or is it that Ukraine shouldn't use deadly force
to defend itself?
It figures strongly in this conflict. It's part of Putin's
motivations to invade. Christianity also has a large
contingent of believers who oppose violence, even
in self defense.
Exactly.
Christians (some) condoning violence against unbelievers.
It's an interesting turn of events. I recall our Christian
leaders wanting death to the commie atheists. Now
the atheist commies have become capitalist Christians
who want death to the decadent unbelievers.
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