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What should the West do Now about Islamic Terrorism?

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
That other religions have extremists does not excuse Islam - especially when it's the complete religion direct from God and others are corrupt.
Do you know WW2 casualties ?
it's done by non religious people , Hilter was not religious , Mesolini was not religious




Does this mean Muhammad, the early caliphs and the forces they commanded to wage war against foreign powers, who would have certainly indulged in similar habits as slavery and rape, were not Muslims either?
Some are just fabricated , some are real.

Please watch , I do agree with his opinion

 

Sees

Dragonslayer
I don't think Islam itself is as benign as most other religious traditions. It is very rare for serious conflict with religious motivations to not involve Islam. It is either on one or both sides, the majority of the time.
Regardless the degree of Western involvement.

I think the reality of this speaks to people differently...and some won't even acknowledge it as a first step. There can't be much success at defanging the worse offshoots without a realistic perspective.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Nazi regime is not German (after ww2),right ? so why you mixed ?

The Nazis were the legitimate Government of Germany from 1933 to 1945. Decisions made in that period have effect on people and further decisions after this period. As is the case with any other Government that once ruled anywhere on the planet.


YOU SAID NEVER

HOLY CRAP CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE UP SOME ENGLISH LESSONS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD

He asks how long it would take for Muslims to stop treating everything as if it was the fault of "the West" if "the West" stopped interacting with the Muslim world completely.
The answer I gave is that Muslims would never stop doing it.


Why Israel ask Germany to pay to survivor Jews ?

You don't even read the articles that you cite for your claims.

"The German government has committed to pay nearly 800 million euros for the care of elderly Holocaust survivors as a result of negotiations in Israel between Berlin and a fund for Jewish victims of Nazi aggression"
http://www.spiegel.de/international...arations-to-holocaust-survivors-a-902528.html

Israel was merely the location where the negotiations took place.
Israel did not negotiate.

Sorry no evil Zionists in that story. Good luck next time.


And you still haven't answered as to why you are against the compensation of slave labour. Is it just something against Jews or do you just hate all slaves?



Who wants to bet that the next post won't have anything to do with what I just wrote?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
The Nazis were the legitimate Government of Germany from 1933 to 1945. Decisions made in that period have effect on people and further decisions after this period. As is the case with any other Government that once ruled anywhere on the planet.
Yes that known , Nazi (germans) are gone .



HOLY CRAP CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE UP SOME ENGLISH LESSONS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD

He asks how long it would take for Muslims to stop treating everything as if it was the fault of "the West" if "the West" stopped interacting with the Muslim world completely.
The answer I gave is that Muslims would never stop doing it.
this a sign of blah blah is coming?
go to sleep .



You don't even read the articles that you cite for your claims.

"The German government has committed to pay nearly 800 million euros for the care of elderly Holocaust survivors as a result of negotiations in Israel between Berlin and a fund for Jewish victims of Nazi aggression"
http://www.spiegel.de/international...arations-to-holocaust-survivors-a-902528.html

Israel was merely the location where the negotiations took place.
Israel did not negotiate.

Sorry no evil Zionists in that story. Good luck next time.


And you still haven't answered as to why you are against the compensation of slave labour. Is it just something against Jews or do you just hate all slaves?



Who wants to bet that the next post won't have anything to do with what I just wrote?
Yes Jews victime demanding a fund from actual Germans , for Nazi crimes

I do believe Jews can't stop blame Germans too.[Never]
 

The_Fisher_King

Trying to bring myself ever closer to Allah
Premium Member
I've never heard a Muslim say Muslims are to blame for Islamic State and Boko Haram. What about you? In these threads do you condemn Islamic State, Boko Haram and the like as Muslims behaving badly or do you dismiss them as 'not true Muslims'?

I condemn IS and Boko Haram as Muslims behaving badly.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Yes that known , Nazi (germans) are gone .

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this a sign of blah blah is coming?
go to sleep .

Its never a good sign if you cant face the reality that you simply did not understand what he wrote. Because that's usually the case when you start to write "blah blah".
Really go study some English and come back in two years.


Yes Jews victime demanding a fund from actual Germans , for Nazi crimes

I do believe Jews can't stop blame Germans too.[Never]

Ah so now I am supposed to forget that you are switching the target from "Israel asking for reparations" to "Jews asking for reparations". Its okay I won't hold it against you that you lied. Allah might but who knows, I am just a kuffar.



Again: Why are you against the idea that victims of slavery and mass murder are getting a little compensation for all the horror they endured from the legal successor of the German Reich, the Federal Republic of Germany?

Answer the ******* question.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Do you know WW2 casualties ?
it's done by non religious people , Hilter was not religious , Mesolini was not religious

I will grant you Mussolini. Hitler is very much more questionable. I personally doubt it. The guy had a jumbo-sized messiah complex, and a history of thinking of himself as the chosen of God.

Besides, Hitler is not the majority of the people who killed in WW2. The rotten nationalism that fueled that conflict had a lot of God-belief in it. To the point that one can't help but wonder if widespread atheism couldn't have avoided it, really.
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
Don't forget though, that most of the "West" was against the Iraq invasion, including the EU. According to wikipedia especially the French and German population were against it. With Italy being 90% against the war. So it was a very small part of the West that was for this war. Having been against said war, it was harder to find people who were for it in my country.

Yes, you're right. I'm not really generalizing the West for this, I'm concerned about what actually happened by the concerned group. I really want those specific people behind what actually happened to mind their own business and never interfere in the Middle East again unless they are asked to and gain appropriate authority to do it.

Generally speaking, I respect the West just like any other people. Dude, I'm in love with them!
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Please



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Blah blah turned to image level ?
I already said many times, Nazi regime is gone, groups are exist.
btw If they are threaten enough , I bet you don't dare to stay live there.




Its never a good sign if you cant face the reality that you simply did not understand what he wrote. Because that's usually the case when you start to write "blah blah".
Really go study some English and come back in two years.
I perfect to have bad English with reasonable and justice , than have good English level with arrogance and hate.



Ah so now I am supposed to forget that you are switching the target from "Israel asking for reparations" to "Jews asking for reparations". Its okay I won't hold it against you that you lied. Allah might but who knows, I am just a kuffar.



Again: Why are you against the idea that victims of slavery and mass murder are getting a little compensation for all the horror they endured from the legal successor of the German Reich, the Federal Republic of Germany?

Answer the ******* question.
You just ride the wrong track of meaning.

Who tell you that I am against compensation? I am with compensation to ALL people include Jews and Russians , Polish even Germans victimes by ally ....etc in that war.

btw Israel was not exist in that time , (WW2) , , I think it's illogical that Israel to ask Germany for compensation by "state to state", because two points :

1-Nazi regime gone ,recall your statement "Don't mix" ;)
2-Israel created after Nazi regime gone.
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
In what way does your post intimate this when the only thing those countries have "in common" is Western democracy - especially in the case of Yemen when it's not us, but your government doing the damage?
Except the second picture isn't the end result, is it? Iraq has been rebuilt since the 2003 invasion. And now we're seeing the chaos started up again because of violent Muslim insurgents backed by Saudi Arabia.

Dude, the West should just mind their own business. Enough playing peacemakers (sorry, but I had to say it). If they don't, it only gives an impression of having hidden motives, which I don't really believe at the moment, but what else would it be? Regardless to whatever happens by Muslims in their own affairs after the mess the concerned Western parties causes, it is their own business. People causing mess to their own is non of the business of external parties. That's common sense. That was my main point and everything else was side notes you decided to put so much emphasis on.

Saudi Arabia is right next to Yemen and its national security is at risk because of its conflict, and the authorities in Yemen actually requested their help. They are not really playing peace makers here. But anyway, as I said before, I don't defend them. You on the other hand seem to defend the Western interference in the Middle East. Sorry if I'm wrong here.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Saudi Arabia is right next to Yemen and its national security is at risk because of its conflict, and the authorities in Yemen actually requested their help. They are not really playing peace makers here. But anyway, as I said before, I don't defend them. You on the other hand seem to defend the Western interference in the Middle East. Sorry if I'm wrong here.
Yeman don't have oil , If someone threaten Saudi Arabia , you will see the US soldier in your country to defend for you, oops I mean your oil :p

So peacemakers will comes :D
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Yeman don't have oil , If someone threaten Saudi Arabia , you will see the US soldier in your country to defend for you, oops I mean your oil :p
I think that was the reason for the first Iraq war, satellite photos of Iraqi troops massing on Saudi border.
 
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