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What the **** was god thinking when he . . .

Skwim

Veteran Member
made sooo many different forms of life?
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Seriously folks, wouldn't a few of each have sufficed? What the heck was he trying to do that required 81,000 different kinds of mollusks and 5,956 species of red algae, to say nothing of almost a million different insects?

Any creationist want to step up to the plate?
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
Not a creationist, but wouldn't a creationist say something like, "He enjoys diversity" or something?
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
another interesting thing to know is that
he allowed for 98% of "creation" to go extinct...
:shrug:
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm also not in doubt that there are more undiscovered species.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
You are all just jealous that you can't have as many TV stations to entertain you. :p
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
made sooo many different forms of life?

Seriously folks, wouldn't a few of each have sufficed? What the heck was he trying to do that required 81,000 different kinds of mollusks and 5,956 species of red algae, to say nothing of almost a million different insects?

Any creationist want to step up to the plate?

2 ways I understand things, with regards to what you're asking.

Something akin to or is a demiurge made physical universe, and in an actual way, is not done manifesting 'things.'

Second way could follow from first, but doesn't need to. Me, I think we might be pieces (spiritually speaking) of that demiurge. Akin, I think to what pantheism suggests, plus what Gnostic teachings get at, plus I'm probably adding in a few of my own thoughts as well. But again, demiurge or spiritual not really needed for this second point. And is realizing that we have ability / power to consciously manifest these things. This is me saying that we are the intelligent designers, we are the ones making, to some degree, the extensive findings of more and more variety in the forms (of life). We believe there is enormous variety, and then we see it, or find further evidence for that. Exponentially growing.

I don't expect either of these ways of understanding things to be accepted by (old school) evolutionists, but am more or less replying in vein of what OP was asking.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Why wouldn't God enjoy diversity of life?

I enjoy diversity of life, and if I was making living creatures I'd have made them as multiple and varied as possible.

I didn't say god wouldn't enjoy diversity of life. I said it was a vapid response.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Sufficed for what?
For whatever the diversity was supposed to accomplish. I assume he had a reason for creating as many species as he did.


Acim said:
2 ways I understand things, with regards to what you're asking.

Something akin to or is a demiurge made physical universe, and in an actual way, is not done manifesting 'things.
Okay, but still no reason here.

Second way could follow from first, but doesn't need to. Me, I think we might be pieces (spiritually speaking) of that demiurge. Akin, I think to what pantheism suggests, plus what Gnostic teachings get at, plus I'm probably adding in a few of my own thoughts as well. But again, demiurge or spiritual not really needed for this second point. And is realizing that we have ability / power to consciously manifest these things. This is me saying that we are the intelligent designers, we are the ones making, to some degree, the extensive findings of more and more variety in the forms (of life).
Changing the operator(s) here still doesn't answer the "why."

We believe there is enormous variety, and then we see it, or find further evidence for that. Exponentially growing.
We know there is enormous variety, but so what?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
As many times as one form of life has failed and been replaced with another...
it seems the scheme of things to have a great diversity on hand.

In so doing, a surface change would affect the surface life, and spare the water life.

Change in the water, would affect many species there but would go unnoticed
on the land.

And the interaction of species would be limited to the immediate relationships,
not spreading altogether across all life.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
As many times as one form of life has failed and been replaced with another...
it seems the scheme of things to have a great diversity on hand.

In so doing, a surface change would affect the surface life, and spare the water life.

Change in the water, would affect many species there but would go unnoticed
on the land.

And the interaction of species would be limited to the immediate relationships,
not spreading altogether across all life.

this points to indifference.
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
Changing the operator(s) here still doesn't answer the "why."

We know there is enormous variety, but so what?

Good point. I was giving limited answer / perspective on things. My bad.

The why is to make it abundantly clear that you are separate from your Creator (God). The more distraction (variety), the greater fascination there will be to seek world without (God).

Kinda also answers why universe is soooo unbelievably humongous. Makes it clear just how far God has to be away from you if galaxies are as far away as they are from each other. Coupled with idea that you are barely even a speck of dust in vast cosmos. (The why here is) To perpetuate the deception that you are nothing significant in scheme of things. Surely you are not child of Creator, given how overwhelmingly tiny you are, or have become.

Demiurge's ongoing plea: accept just how insignificant you are and how utterly real it is that you are separated from God. Where is he? Anywhere to be seen in the vast cosmos? Yeah, I didn't think so. Death is your only salvation.
 
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