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What was The Faith of Jesus of Nazareth?

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Interesting. Then his so called followers would not be Christians.
Christianity was established after by Paul and Simon the stone (petros) in Antioch; so there could've been Christians, regardless whether Yeshua even existed. ;)

Next Yeshua was speaking about faith within an overall context of the word faith; not using it as a substitute for the word religion....So his faith was strong.

His religious background tho, seem to stem from Judaism surprisingly.... :eek:

His teachings have parts from the Essenes, bits answering Pharisees and Judaic roots overall.

We could also go into details, and show odd Greek mythology intermingled as well; yet it is debatable if that is his, or added later. :confused:

Some people try to define him in a single sect; which is naive, if he was, who he claimed, which would imply him to have a greater authority than any individual sect. :innocent:
 

Awoon

Well-Known Member
Christianity was established after by Paul and Simon the stone (petros) in Antioch; so there could've been Christians, regardless whether Yeshua even existed. ;)

Next Yeshua was speaking about faith within an overall context of the word faith; not using it as a substitute for the word religion....So his faith was strong.

His religious background tho, seem to stem from Judaism surprisingly.... :eek:

His teachings have parts from the Essenes, bits answering Pharisees and Judaic roots overall.

We could also go into details, and show odd Greek mythology intermingled as well; yet it is debatable if that is his, or added later. :confused:

Some people try to define him in a single sect; which is naive, if he was, who he claimed, which would imply him to have a greater authority than any individual sect. :innocent:

That's the best explanation I've read. Years ago I asked Christian preachers the same question. Never did get an answer so I dumped them and their faith.
 

Awoon

Well-Known Member
That's true, they were called "disciples" and they were called "disciples" in Acts, as well. The word, Christian, might have been used disparagingly, according to what scholars have said.

Did Jesus disciples call Jesus Mother a Christian?
 

Awoon

Well-Known Member
Meaning of Christian:
From ancient Greek Christianos, meaning "follower of Christ".

I don't know what you are getting at by asking what His faith was/is.
His faith was in God.
Meaning of Christian:
From ancient Greek Christianos, meaning "follower of Christ".

I don't know what you are getting at by asking what His faith was/is.
His faith was in God.

What I'm getting at is that a follower of Jesus of Nazareth would have the same Faith as Jesus of Nazareth. So what was the Faith of Jesus of Nazareth? So his Followers can Follow his Faith.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
So his Followers can Follow his Faith (religious belief).
The first followers are known as 'Followers of the Way'.... That to me, sounds very much an Essene idea; Nazar means to be separated, so the Nazarenes could've been a possible reference to Yeshua being part of them.

His teachings of following the commandments, and giving up wealth, is a similar belief to the later Ebionites ('the poor ones').

So it does appear the followers could've have been the Ebionites; which were the ones mentioned in Acts, who were in opposition to Paul's jesus came as a sacrifice mythology. ;)
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Read the edit I made in post 29.
You were asking of Jesus' faith. It was Jewish and, as someone pointed out, it was in G-d. The term Christian, as I said, was only used a couple of times in the Christian scriptures.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I will repeat: Jesus'/Yeshua's religion was Judaism, His faith was in G-d. (edited to add: I wish I had come up with the second part of this answer myself, and thanks to the one did come up with it, it is brilliant) :)
 

Awoon

Well-Known Member
You were asking of Jesus' faith. It was Jewish and, as someone pointed out, it was in G-d. The term Christian, as I said, was only used a couple of times in the Christian scriptures.

Its used twice as Christian and once as Christians.

Jesus of Nazareth followers should have his Faith to do what he did. What excuse do his followers have for not having his Faith?
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Its used twice as Christian and once as Christians.

Jesus of Nazareth followers should have his Faith to do what he did. What excuse do his followers have for not having his Faith?
That they're not Him.;) We do have faith in G-d, in case you haven't noticed (yes, I DO know you are asking why we are not Jews, and there are followers of His that ARE Jews: Messianic Jews and Jews for Jesus, amongst others.)
 

Awoon

Well-Known Member
I will repeat: Jesus'/Yeshua's religion was Judaism, His faith was in G-d. (edited to add: I wish I had come up with the second part of this answer myself, and thanks to the one did come up with it, it is brilliant) :)

As a follower of Jesus/Yeshua you should have all the answers about him that anyone could ask, since you have a Religion about Jesus/Yeshua and not the Religion Faith Of Jesus/Yeshua.
 

Awoon

Well-Known Member
So, NO Christian has the FAITH of Jesus nor his Religion. Yet they say they follow him. Strange, it's more like Jesus is adopted but not followed nor Demonstrated.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
As a follower of Jesus/Yeshua you should have all the answers about him that anyone could ask, since you have a Religion about Jesus/Yeshua and not the Religion Faith Of Jesus/Yeshua.
If I could memorize the entire Tanakh, Torah, etc., I would. But since I am not G-d (and not really a Bible scholar) and only a mere human being, I will just keep right on studying the scriptures of my faith. I have, however, read every book in the Bible: The Jewish scriptures and the Scriptures about Jesus. I don't apologize for not "having all the answers", and can console myself by saying that no one else has all the answers, as well. :)
 
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