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What was The Faith of Jesus of Nazareth?

outhouse

Atheistically
Your question is merely moving analytical goal post.

He was an Aramaic Jew who had a pious faith in Judaism and the one god Historically speaking.

Biblically speaking he had no faith because he was god and faith in yourself is really not needed.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I will repeat: Jesus'/Yeshua's religion was Judaism, His faith was in G-d. (edited to add: I wish I had come up with the second part of this answer myself, and thanks to the one did come up with it, it is brilliant) :)

According to Scripture, Jesus kept the Constitution of the Mosaic Law.
Jesus also believed in the same theocracy that the prophet Daniel believed in - Daniel 2:44; 7 vs 13,14
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Your question is merely moving analytical goal post.

He was an Aramaic Jew who had a pious faith in Judaism and the one god Historically speaking.

Biblically speaking he had no faith because he was god and faith in yourself is really not needed.
That's true, unless someone believes that He did not say He was God and a lot of Christians do believe that He never said He was God. :)
 

outhouse

Atheistically
That's true, unless someone believes that He did not say He was God and a lot of Christians do believe that He never said He was God. :)

Agreed. Many people then had very different views of the man ranging from all deity and spirit man, to all spirit in the shape of a man like gnostic groups.

Some thought he was all human, others all god.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Your question is merely moving analytical goal post.
He was an Aramaic Jew who had a pious faith in Judaism and the one god Historically speaking.
Biblically speaking he had no faith because he was god and faith in yourself is really not needed.

Biblically speaking: according to gospel writer John at Revelation 1:5; 3:14 Jesus is the beginning of the creation by God.
Jesus stressed we should worship his God and Father - John 4 vs 23,24; Rev. 3:12
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
What was The Faith of Jesus of Nazareth?

Not his religion.

How can you separate them?

His faith was obviously in the ONE God Jewish doctrine - with it's Messiah prophecies, - as he was claiming to be that awaited Jewish Messiah.

Christianity - long after his death - created something totally different than what his faith was.

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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Its used twice as Christian and once as Christians.
Jesus of Nazareth followers should have his Faith to do what he did. What excuse do his followers have for not having his Faith?

At Pentecost - Acts chapter 2 - the Christian congregation was established
First, they were called ' the way ' at Acts 9:2
Right you are, twice mentioned as Christian and once plural as Christians.
At Acts 11:26 at Antioch they were first called ' Christian '
' Christians ' are then mentioned at Acts 26:28
Peter mentions ' Christian ' at 1st Peter 4:16

What excuse do Jesus' followers have for Not having his faith?
Jesus ' faith, or main focus, was Luke 4:43 in connection to the spreading message of God's kingdom.
Jesus believed in the theocratic kingdom of God as did the prophet Daniel - Daniel 2:44
What excuse today is that, as Jesus said - Matthew 7: 21-23 - that MANY would come ' in his name ' but prove false.
They are like those mentioned at Acts 20 vs 29,30 who play false to God.
They are like the fake ' weed/tares' Christians who grow together with the genuine ' wheat ' Christian until the harvest time.
We are at that harvest time or nearing the coming ' time of separation ' on earth of Matthew 25 vs 31,32
Humble sheep-like Christians carry out the commission of Matthew 24:14. They proclaim the international spreading about the good news of God's kingdom world wide today that Jesus is the King (ruler/president) of God's kingdom, and only Jesus is the one who will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill.
 
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Awoon

Well-Known Member
How can you separate them?

His faith was obviously in the ONE God Jewish doctrine - with it's Messiah prophecies, - as he was claiming to be that awaited Jewish Messiah.

Christianity - long after his death - created something totally different than what his faith was.

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Jesus said have the Faith of God. Now please, what in the world or out of this world is that?
 

Awoon

Well-Known Member
If I could memorize the entire Tanakh, Torah, etc., I would. But since I am not G-d (and not really a Bible scholar) and only a mere human being, I will just keep right on studying the scriptures of my faith. I have, however, read every book in the Bible: The Jewish scriptures and the Scriptures about Jesus. I don't apologize for not "having all the answers", and can console myself by saying that no one else has all the answers, as well. :)

If you are not a God and only a mere human being, how can you follow a God?
 

Awoon

Well-Known Member
Biblically speaking: according to gospel writer John at Revelation 1:5; 3:14 Jesus is the beginning of the creation by God.
Jesus stressed we should worship his God and Father - John 4 vs 23,24; Rev. 3:12

All that you post is about Jesus. When will you demonstrate Jesus?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
How can you separate them?
His faith was obviously in the ONE God Jewish doctrine - with it's Messiah prophecies, - as he was claiming to be that awaited Jewish Messiah.
Christianity - long after his death - created something totally different than what his faith was.
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Perhaps even more like ' short ' after his death because Luke wrote at Acts 20 vs 29,30 that wolves, so to speak, would be entering in among that first-century group. While the apostles were still alive, the apostles were acting as a restraint against apostasy setting in. - 2nd Peter 2 vs 1 - 3
 

Awoon

Well-Known Member

Yep, Jesus had an advantage so "mere human being" can not have his Faith nor follow him. Now we know why Christians have a Religion About Jesus and Not the Faith Of Jesus.

No need to call yourself follower of Jesus because you cant Demonstrate Jesus works.
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Jesus said have the Faith of God. Now please, what in the world or out of this world is that?

His God, and beliefs, were the Jewish.

What verse says have the faith of God? So I can look it up.

Are you referring to

Mar 11:21 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.

Mar 11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.

11:22 is also sometimes translated - Have the faith of God.

Mar 11:23For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

Mar 11:24Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

They say what they mean, - Say it - Believe it - IT IS.

and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.


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Awoon

Well-Known Member
His God, and beliefs, were the Jewish.

What verse says have the faith of God? So I can look it up.

Are you referring to

Mar 11:21 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.

Mar 11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.

11:22 is also sometimes translated - Have the faith of God.

Mar 11:23For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

Mar 11:24Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

They say what they mean, - Say it - Believe it - IT IS.

and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.


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Christian followers of Jesus/Yeshua don't demonstrate those scriptures. That's why I keep saying Christians have a Religion/Faith ABOUT Jesus and NOT the Religion/Faith OF Jesus. It is really useless to the world. Because the Whole Creation is waiting for The Manifestation of The Sons of God to Demonstrate what Jesus said they could. Instead the world get the manifestation of people (Christians) condemning other people (Christians) and neither bunch can demonstrate anything for the betterment of Humankind.
 

Awoon

Well-Known Member
He believed in God.
He wanted to believe in His fellow man.

so....maybe the real question is....
Does He still believe in us?

Doesn't matter.
He left teachings to mere human beings to do what he said could be done. Posted in post #57 above. Yet the loudest followers of Jesus/Yeshua cant Demonstrate anything but dogmas from their Sects.
 
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