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What was the Leviathan?

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1137

Here until I storm off again
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Even in the bible, Leviathan is a serpent of the sea.

There's a difference between Leviathan being a sea serpent and Leviathan being whom we decended from. Unless you mean that as in we came from the sea, I'm guessing we're talking symbolism which is why I said we should take it to the DIR instead of derailing this revolutionary thread about archnemisis volcano Gods ;)
 

outhouse

Atheistically
lets cut through all the junk and get the facts out.


Leviathan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Leviathan (/lɨˈvaɪ.əθən/; Hebrew: לִוְיָתָן, Modern Livyatan Tiberian Liwyāṯān ; "twisted, coiled"), is a sea monster referred to in the Bible. In Demonology, the Leviathan is one of the seven princes of Hell and its gatekeeper (see Hellmouth). The word has become synonymous with any large sea monster or creature. In literature (e.g., Herman Melville's Moby-Dick) it refers to great whales, and in Modern Hebrew, it means simply "whale." It is described extensively in Job 41.


no volcano there

in Psalm 104 Yahweh is praised for having made all things, including Leviathan; and in Isaiah 27:1 he is called the "wriggling serpent" who will be killed at the end of time.

no volcano there


In the Talmud Baba Bathra 74b it is told that the Leviathan will be slain and its flesh served as a feast to the righteous in [the] Time to Come, and its skin used to cover the tent where the banquet will take place. The festival of Sukkot (Festival of Booths) therefore concludes with a prayer recited upon leaving the sukkah (booth): "May it be your will, Lord our God and God of our forefathers, that just as I have fulfilled and dwelt in this sukkah, so may I merit in the coming year to dwell in the sukkah of the skin of Leviathan. Next year in Jerusalem."

Definately no volcano there, maybe the opposite of a volcano


Sea serpents feature prominently in the mythology of the Ancient Near East, attested as early as the 3rd millennium BCE in Sumerian iconography depicting the myth of the god Ninurta overcoming the seven-headed serpent. Examples of the storm god vs. sea serpent trope in the Ancient Near East can be seen with Baʿal vs. Yam (Canaanite), Marduk vs. Tiamat (Babylonian), and Atum vs. Nehebkau (Egyptian) among others, with attestations as early as the 2nd millennium as seen on Syrian seals.
In the Ugaritic texts Lotan, or possibly another of Yam's helpers, is given the epithets "wriggling serpent" and "mighty one with the seven heads." Isaiah 27:1 uses the first of these phrases to describe Leviathan (although in this case the name "Leviathan" apparently refers to an unnamed historical/political enemy of Israel rather than the original serpent-monster).[citation needed] In Psalm 104, Leviathan is not described as harmful in any way, but simply as a creature of the ocean, part of God's creation. It is possible that the authors of the Job 41:2-26, on the other hand, based the Leviathan on descriptions of Egyptian animal mythology where the crocodile is the enemy of the sun-god and a crocodile monster to be feared. This is in contrast to typical descriptions of the sea monster trope in terms of mythological combat.

No volcanos here either


As a matter of fact, NO ONE places any sort of volcanic activity to such anywhere!
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Also take into consideration the Egyptian's use of serpents, the serpent in the garden, the serpent on Moses' staff and in front of pharoah, not to mention the kundalini serpent and other serpents preceding the writings about Leviathan. Serpents seem to be one of the most commonly used symbols. There's no reason they would think a volcano would be a large, wiggling, moving serpent when it doesn't move. The description could fit a volcano but that's about it.
 

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
Psalm 74:14 It was you who crushed the heads of Leviathan and gave him as food to the creatures of the desert.

Isaiah 27:1 In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

God was also said to have made the Egyptian Pharoah take so long to give the Hebrews their freedom. He is also said to have made the Hebrews wander around the desert for forty years. He was said to have been the designer of all sorts of horrible things and caused lots of human suffering.

What a load of rubbish. Please read Oh My Volcano' blog for some home truths and then you will start to live in peace.
I read the Oh My Volcano blog. It simply is not a credible source. The main reason being that it doesn't generally supply any actual researchable evidence. As in, no sources are cited. And youtube videos generally are not the best of sources.

Also, Isaiah clearly states that Leviathan is a serpent or a dragon. Again, this plays into the standard mythology. There is no reason to think that this is talking about underwater volcanos, when there is a much simpler solution that is well attested to in that area and time.

Not to mention, none of those passages state that Leviathan is the archenemy of God. Instead, they suggest quite the opposite; that Leviathan really isn't a problem at all.

As for the deal of human suffering, really doesn't change what I said. Instead of going in length about it here, I will just link to an essay I wrote on the subject. http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/general-religious-debates/130311-suffering-divine-speeches-job.html
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
I can imagine how Leviathan would be compared to a volcano, especially one under seas. And one of the most commonly accepted theories to the origin in life involves the sea, and volcanic activity.

Which refers to my first post.
 

The Fog Horn

Active Member
lets cut through all the junk and get the facts out.


Leviathan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Leviathan (/lɨˈvaɪ.əθən/; Hebrew: לִוְיָתָן, Modern Livyatan Tiberian Liwyāṯān ; "twisted, coiled"), is a sea monster referred to in the Bible. In Demonology, the Leviathan is one of the seven princes of Hell and its gatekeeper (see Hellmouth). The word has become synonymous with any large sea monster or creature. In literature (e.g., Herman Melville's Moby-Dick) it refers to great whales, and in Modern Hebrew, it means simply "whale." It is described extensively in Job 41.


no volcano there

in Psalm 104 Yahweh is praised for having made all things, including Leviathan; and in Isaiah 27:1 he is called the "wriggling serpent" who will be killed at the end of time.

no volcano there


In the Talmud Baba Bathra 74b it is told that the Leviathan will be slain and its flesh served as a feast to the righteous in [the] Time to Come, and its skin used to cover the tent where the banquet will take place. The festival of Sukkot (Festival of Booths) therefore concludes with a prayer recited upon leaving the sukkah (booth): "May it be your will, Lord our God and God of our forefathers, that just as I have fulfilled and dwelt in this sukkah, so may I merit in the coming year to dwell in the sukkah of the skin of Leviathan. Next year in Jerusalem."

Definately no volcano there, maybe the opposite of a volcano


Sea serpents feature prominently in the mythology of the Ancient Near East, attested as early as the 3rd millennium BCE in Sumerian iconography depicting the myth of the god Ninurta overcoming the seven-headed serpent. Examples of the storm god vs. sea serpent trope in the Ancient Near East can be seen with Baʿal vs. Yam (Canaanite), Marduk vs. Tiamat (Babylonian), and Atum vs. Nehebkau (Egyptian) among others, with attestations as early as the 2nd millennium as seen on Syrian seals.
In the Ugaritic texts Lotan, or possibly another of Yam's helpers, is given the epithets "wriggling serpent" and "mighty one with the seven heads." Isaiah 27:1 uses the first of these phrases to describe Leviathan (although in this case the name "Leviathan" apparently refers to an unnamed historical/political enemy of Israel rather than the original serpent-monster).[citation needed] In Psalm 104, Leviathan is not described as harmful in any way, but simply as a creature of the ocean, part of God's creation. It is possible that the authors of the Job 41:2-26, on the other hand, based the Leviathan on descriptions of Egyptian animal mythology where the crocodile is the enemy of the sun-god and a crocodile monster to be feared. This is in contrast to typical descriptions of the sea monster trope in terms of mythological combat.

No volcanos here either


As a matter of fact, NO ONE places any sort of volcanic activity to such anywhere!

You seriously expect to find the word 'volcano' in anything on the net other than my blog and the computer games mentioned? No-one 'official' has worked it out yet and explained it publicly. Why would it be written anywhere? This issue seems small but is in fact a Pandora's Box...open this and the rest will all come pouring out after it. You've posted a load of anthropomorphism to try to prove the Leviathan was not a volcano. That's totally illogical reasoning. Of course it's not going to mention volcanoes or give the game away. You have to be a bit cleverer than that. Powers of deduction need to go beyond reading the bumf on Wiki. You need to use critical judgement and not accept everything so far written.
 
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The Fog Horn

Active Member
Also take into consideration the Egyptian's use of serpents, the serpent in the garden, the serpent on Moses' staff and in front of pharoah, not to mention the kundalini serpent and other serpents preceding the writings about Leviathan. Serpents seem to be one of the most commonly used symbols. There's no reason they would think a volcano would be a large, wiggling, moving serpent when it doesn't move. The description could fit a volcano but that's about it.

You're not thinking deeply enough. The use of the word 'serpent' is due to snakes being nasty things. They bite, they kill, they attack, they slither, they look slimey, they are frightening. It's all imagery that fits very well the 'thing' that was in the sea that made the sea boil, made the sea a funny colour, had 'eyes' like burning lamps, etc. They were terrified of the thing in the sea so they called it a serpent, at times. The name fit the 'characteristics'. It's a bit like calling someone a dog one day and then a cow the next. They also used words and descriptors of crocodiles because they also knew of crocodiles and they related them to the underwater volcano. They described the Leviathan in terms they understood.....scaley skin, teeth, etc. It's quite obvious the Leviathan was neither a serpent nor a crocodile as the Leviathan never moved from the spot on being watched, plus all the smoke and fire. They didn't have a word to describe the Leviathan correctly so they used the words they did have....a best fit. Exactly the same thinking is behind the terminology used to describe Yahweh. He was said to look like a fire on top of a mountain, to shoot our fiery things, to make a lot of noise, to produce a lot of smoke, to make everyone afraid, to produce rivers of fire, etc.

You have to think in a totally different way to understand all this.
 
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Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Job 41 aptly describes this creature/beast that we would likely recognize as a crocodile of some sorts

41 “Can you draw out Le·vi′a·than with a fishhook, Or with a rope can you hold down its tongue? ... 5 Will you play with it as with a bird,... 8 Put your hand upon it.
Remember the battle. Do not do it again....10 None is so audacious that he should stir it up.
And who is it that can hold his ground before me?...Into its double jaw who will enter?...Its teeth round about are frightful.
15 Furrows of scales are its haughtiness, Closed as with a tight seal.
16 One to the other they fit closely, And not even air can come in between them.
17 Each one to the other they are stuck together;They grasp one another and cannot be separated....33 Upon the dust there is not the like of it,
...It is king over all majestic wild beasts.”


 

outhouse

Atheistically
No-one 'official' has worked it out yet and explained it publicly.


:facepalm: because it has no merit, or credibility, or plausibility. :slap:



your spamming many religious board's with your imagination :redcard:
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
I can imagine how Leviathan would be compared to a volcano, especially one under seas. And one of the most commonly accepted theories to the origin in life involves the sea, and volcanic activity.

Which refers to my first post.

Looking at Genesis it is highly unlikely that these authors knew about evolution and related information, therefore the fact that the origins of life may include volcanic activity would have nothing to do with this. Either way, nowhere does it say we decend from Leviathan.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
The Leviathan was an anthropomorphised underwater volcanic eruption.

If you disgree, please state exactly why and I will handle your objections.
I disagree, because I can draw no obvious symbolic connection between frightening sea monsters, underwater volcanic eruptions, and banquets.
 

The Fog Horn

Active Member
I disagree, because I can draw no obvious symbolic connection between frightening sea monsters, underwater volcanic eruptions, and banquets.

Underwater volcanoes do not produce clouds of ash that could be described as white hair, do not have a very hard outer coating, do move around, can be caught with a hook, do not produce anything that could be described as 'lamps', do talk, can be tethered, can be shot with a spear, do not produce sparks of fire or smoke, do not kindle coals, are not hot enough to make the sea boil, do not make the sea murky, do not rise up, do not shoot out sharp things, do not produce trails of bright stuff and did not exist in the Holy Land during a time in which people were both extremely supersticious to the point of paranoia and when people didn't have a clue what volcanoes, land or marine, were.

Nope.....nothing to connect them.
 

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
You're not thinking deeply enough. The use of the word 'serpent' is due to snakes being nasty things. They bite, they kill, they attack, they slither, they look slimey, they are frightening. It's all imagery that fits very well the 'thing' that was in the sea that made the sea boil, made the sea a funny colour, had 'eyes' like burning lamps, etc. They were terrified of the thing in the sea so they called it a serpent, at times. The name fit the 'characteristics'. It's a bit like calling someone a dog one day and then a cow the next. They also used words and descriptors of crocodiles because they also knew of crocodiles and they related them to the underwater volcano. They described the Leviathan in terms they understood.....scaley skin, teeth, etc. It's quite obvious the Leviathan was neither a serpent nor a crocodile as the Leviathan never moved from the spot on being watched, plus all the smoke and fire. They didn't have a word to describe the Leviathan correctly so they used the words they did have....a best fit. Exactly the same thinking is behind the terminology used to describe Yahweh. He was said to look like a fire on top of a mountain, to shoot our fiery things, to make a lot of noise, to produce a lot of smoke, to make everyone afraid, to produce rivers of fire, etc.

You have to think in a totally different way to understand all this.
Actually, you are missing what ancients thought about serpents. Here is something I wrote about it before: "Looking at another serpent from the Hebrew Bible, the Leviathan, we can gain that idea that serpents represented (or could represent), chaos. Chaos though is not necessarily evil, and in fact, we are told in the Hebrew Bible, such as in Job, that it is good as it is part of the nature of creation.

They can also be used to symbolize sexuality, or fertility. These generally are seen in a positive light, yet can be seen as evil as well. In addition though, serpents can also represent an ill omen, such as impending death, or represent guards, not to mention magic. The point though is that the serpent does not necessarily represent evil or despised."

In fact, around that area, there were cults that worshipped serpents. Egypt especially shows a number of positive outlooks on serpents as did Mesopotamia in general.

So really, your understanding of serpents, in the Ancient Near East, simply is incorrect.

And they would have had a word to describe volcanoes. We do see others describing volcanoes. As for Leviathan being an underwater volcano, you still haven't shown that there were any underwater volcanoes there. And the fact that God is said to be able to basically wrestle with it, and it being able to be caught, shows that it was a creature that moved around. Looking at all of the Leviathan mythology, and there is more than just Job, all describe it as a sea serpent, and it was the symbology of the beast that actually mattered.
 

The Fog Horn

Active Member
Actually, you are missing what ancients thought about serpents. Here is something I wrote about it before: "Looking at another serpent from the Hebrew Bible, the Leviathan, we can gain that idea that serpents represented (or could represent), chaos. Chaos though is not necessarily evil, and in fact, we are told in the Hebrew Bible, such as in Job, that it is good as it is part of the nature of creation.

They can also be used to symbolize sexuality, or fertility. These generally are seen in a positive light, yet can be seen as evil as well. In addition though, serpents can also represent an ill omen, such as impending death, or represent guards, not to mention magic. The point though is that the serpent does not necessarily represent evil or despised."

In fact, around that area, there were cults that worshipped serpents. Egypt especially shows a number of positive outlooks on serpents as did Mesopotamia in general.

So really, your understanding of serpents, in the Ancient Near East, simply is incorrect.

And they would have had a word to describe volcanoes. We do see others describing volcanoes. As for Leviathan being an underwater volcano, you still haven't shown that there were any underwater volcanoes there. And the fact that God is said to be able to basically wrestle with it, and it being able to be caught, shows that it was a creature that moved around. Looking at all of the Leviathan mythology, and there is more than just Job, all describe it as a sea serpent, and it was the symbology of the beast that actually mattered.

Please tell me the word the ancient Hebrews used for volcanoes. Who are the others who have described volcanoes and how did they describe them?
 

The Fog Horn

Active Member
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The system of mid-ocean ridges, or submarine volcanic mountain ranges, around the world. Geologists estimate that 75 percent of the molten rocks or magma reaching Earth's surface does so through mid-ocean ridges .

Read more: Ocean Basin - The shape of the land, Forces and changes, Spotlight on famous forms, For More Information


Please note the red line going up the Red Sea past Saudi and Eqypt and across the rest of the 'Holy' Land up to the Mediterranean Sea taking the Dead Sea and Sea of Galilee transform fault.

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Much of the intensified major future activity for this region is prophesied to occur along the Dead Sea Transform fault, a continuation of the Red Sea and East African Rift system. This fault runs directly under the Dead Sea, up through the Jordan river valley, the Sea of Galilee, and northward through Lebanon. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah in Abraham's day was in the area south of what is presently the Dead Sea. The Bible's mention of a rain of fire and brimstone from heaven on those wicked cities (See Genesis 19:24 - 29) indicates that the Divine judgment came from sudden volcanic/tectonic activity in a "plain" area which is now the submerged floor of the Dead Sea. There is evidence that the Age of the Dead Sea is only about as old as the time of Abraham.



 

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
Please tell me the word the ancient Hebrews used for volcanoes. Who are the others who have described volcanoes and how did they describe them?
Centuries ago, the Romans attributed volcanic and related phenomena (including earthquakes) mainly to the movement of wind imprisoned inside the Earth rushing violently to the surface. Taken from: Monitoring Active Volcanoes: Introduction This is also what Aristotle claimed as well as did Strabo (an ancient Greek geographer).

If we look at what the Bible says about Mount Sinai (which you have already stated was a volcano), this is what we see: “on the third day of the morning . . . there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount. . . . And Mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke . . . and the whole mount quaked greatly.” It isn't descried in a godly way, but is stated flat out as a mountain.

If you look at Greek mythology, you can find some explaining volcanoes away with giants. Supernatural indeed, but not godly.

So it seems as if you just haven't done enough research on this subject.
 

The Fog Horn

Active Member
Centuries ago, the Romans attributed volcanic and related phenomena (including earthquakes) mainly to the movement of wind imprisoned inside the Earth rushing violently to the surface. Taken from: Monitoring Active Volcanoes: Introduction This is also what Aristotle claimed as well as did Strabo (an ancient Greek geographer).

If we look at what the Bible says about Mount Sinai (which you have already stated was a volcano), this is what we see: “on the third day of the morning . . . there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount. . . . And Mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke . . . and the whole mount quaked greatly.” It isn't descried in a godly way, but is stated flat out as a mountain.

If you look at Greek mythology, you can find some explaining volcanoes away with giants. Supernatural indeed, but not godly.

So it seems as if you just haven't done enough research on this subject.

May I suggest you go through my blog 'Oh My Volcano' properly because then you will see exactly how much research I have done on the subject.

I see you were unable to find a word used in the Bible to describe volcanoes, which is odd considering the 'Holy' Land was volcanic.

You say Mount Sinai was a volcano. That is very likely correct, which begs the question, 'Did Moses meet God on the top of an erupting volcano and, if so, why did god choose such a site for his meeting and why did he choose such a site for his 'dwelling place'? You also say that it 'isn't described in a godly way'. I take it you mean the volcano was not attributed to Yahweh. Well, that is an area in which you should have researched prior to making your claim because you are very wrong.

The reason there is no word for volcanoes in the Bible is due to them being seen as a god....they were Yahweh, the imaginery volcano god. The same happened to Mount Sinai that happened to the underwater volcanoes.

In fact, most verses in the Bible that obviously describe volcanoes are also describing Yahweh. Here are some examples. ..........

Isaiah 30:27 See, the Name of the LORD comes from afar, with burning anger and dense clouds of smoke; his lips are full of wrath, and his tongue is a consuming fire.

Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.

Deuteronomy 4:11 You came near and stood at the foot of the mountain while it blazed with fire to the very heavens, with black clouds and deep darkness.

Deuteronomy 5:4 The LORD spoke to you face to face out of the fire on the mountain.

Deuteronomy 33:2 He said: "The LORD came from Sinai and dawned over them from Seir; he shone forth from Mount Paran. He came with myriads of holy ones from the south, from his mountain slopes.

Isaiah 10:17 The Light of Israel will become a fire, their Holy One a flame; in a single day it will burn and consume his thorns and his briers.

Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are terrified; trembling grips the godless: "Who of us can dwell with the consuming fire? Who of us can dwell with everlasting burning?"

Isaiah 66:15 See, the LORD is coming with fire, and his chariots are like a whirlwind; he will bring down his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Jeremiah 4:4 Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, circumcise your hearts, you men of Judah and people of Jerusalem, or my wrath will break out and burn like fire because of the evil you have done--burn with no one to quench it.

Ezekiel 22:31 So I will pour out my wrath on them and consume them with my fiery anger, bringing down on their own heads all they have done, declares the Sovereign LORD."

Daniel 7:10 A river of fire was flowing, coming out from before him. Thousands upon thousands attended him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him. The court was seated, and the books were opened.

Lamentations 4:11 The LORD has given full vent to his wrath; he has poured out his fierce anger. He kindled a fire in Zion that consumed her foundations.

Ezekiel 7:8 I am about to pour out my wrath on you and spend my anger against you; I will judge you according to your conduct and repay you for all your detestable practices.

Exodus 3:12 And God said, "I will be with you. And this will be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: When you have brought the people out of Egypt, you will worship God on this mountain."

Isaiah 29:6 the LORD Almighty will come with thunder and earthquake and great noise, with windstorm and tempest and flames of a devouring fire.

Jeremiah 4:13 Look! He advances like the clouds, his chariots come like a whirlwind, his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe to us! We are ruined!

1 Timothy 6:16 The blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords: who only hath immortality, dwelling in light unapproachable; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power eternal. Amen"

Deuteronomy 4:32-43 "For ask now of the days that are past ... whether there hath been any such thing as this great thing is? ... Did ever people hear the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as thou hast heard, and live? Or hath God assayed to go and take him a nation from the midst of another nation, by trials , by signs, and by wonders ... according to all that the LORD your God did for you in Egypt before your eyes?"

Exodus 19:3 And Moses went up unto God, and the LORD called unto him out of the mountain 9 And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. 12 And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death. 13 there shall not a hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live. 16 And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, Rev. 4.5 and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled. 18 And mount Si'nai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire:


PSA 18:8 There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.

ISA 30:27 Behold, the name of the LORD cometh from far, burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire:

Isaiah: 5:26 And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly.

Exodus: 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

Numbers 16:35 And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense.

1 Kings 18:38 Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench.

Leviticus 9:24And there came a fire out from before the LORD, and consumed upon the altar the burnt offering and the fat: which when all the people saw, they shouted, and fell on their faces.

Hebrews 12:29 for our "God is a consuming fire."

Exodus 15:7 In the greatness of your majesty you threw down those who opposed you. You unleashed your burning anger; it consumed them like stubble.

Exodus 24:17 To the Israelites the glory of the LORD looked like a consuming fire on top of the mountain.

2 Samuel 22:9 Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it.

Psalm 97:3 Fire goes before him and consumes his foes on every side.

Jeremiah 25:37 The peaceful meadows will be laid waste because of the fierce anger of the LORD.

Hebrews 10:31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Daniel 7:9 "As I looked, "thrones were set in place, and the Ancient of Days took his seat. His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of his head was white like wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all ablaze.

Numbers 16.35 And fire came out from the LORD and consumed the 250 men who were offering the incense.

Leviticus 10:2 So fire came out from the presence of the LORD and consumed them, and they died before the LORD.

Numbers 11:1 Now the people complained about their hardships in the hearing of the LORD, and when he heard them his anger was aroused. Then fire from the LORD burned among them and consumed some of the outskirts of the camp.

Psalm 50:3 Our God comes and will not be silent; a fire devours before him, and around him a tempest rages.
 
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outhouse

Atheistically
OP has still has not shown when any volcanic activity took place in Israel.


he spends all his free time spamming religious boards with there unfounded imaginative examples that not only have no credibility, they are simply laughable
 
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