sooda
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Temple Judaism did end and Jerusalem was destroyed.
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What will the Second Coming of Christ look like?
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Temple Judaism did end and Jerusalem was destroyed.
No imagination at all. Same Jesus as in the Bible.
3rdAngel
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MATTHEW 24 is over many signs that must take place before the 2nd coming and the temple being one of those signs. After the completion of all those signs we have the second coming and the end of the world
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3rdAngel
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Sorry the second coming already taken place is not biblical. According to the scriptures when JESUS returns at the second coming it is the end of the world and we would not be having this conversation if that were the case.
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sooda
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Apart from the well-funded (and fundamentalist) “biblical archaeologists,” we are in fact nearly all “minimalists” now.
The Bible and Interpretation
The Bible and Interpretation
The end of the world is an incorrect translation. It is end of the age. The age of horse and buggy and oil lamps ended long ago and we are now in the modern scientific age.
Matthew 24:3
Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
All humanity are witness to the new age that has dawned. The Adamic age of prophecy has ended and now we have entered the age of fulfillment in which all the promises of God are being fulfilled. The Jews have returned to their homeland and the Gospel has been preached in all the world several times over. Just some of the signs that have been fulfilled.
We believe Rev 3:12 refers to Baha’u’llah.
3rdAngel
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Sorry that is a false interpretation of the scriptures from the old testament and new which show that the second coming is the end of the world.
MATTHEW 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? (KJV)
What proves your interpretation false is v14...
MATTHEW 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come
It will come as a theif in the night ...
1 THESSALONIANS 5:2-3 [2] For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. [3] For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. and his reward will be with him to give to everyman whatever that may be *REVELATION 22:11-12
Hope this helps
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The end does not say end of the world. That is your added interpretation. It just says then shall the end come.
God is not going to punish man unless he has done something terribly wrong. He is a just and loving God not an oppressor of innocent people. It’s very noteworthy that sudden destruction is associated with Christ’s coming in that His rejection would incur the wrath of God. Especially when so many claimed to be sincerely awaiting His Coming.
The Jews suffered exile after 70 years for what they did to Christ not before He came but after they killed Him and refused to accept Him. God is just and does not punish us in advance but after we have done something very wrong like kill His Prophets.
3rdAngel
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No that is your added interpretation as shown earlier through the scriptures which you seem to ignore in order to support a belief that is not biblical.
MATTHEW 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? (KJV)
What proves your interpretation false is v14...
MATTHEW 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come
The point of this text is that the gospel has yet to go to all the world in the time of the disciples. It is one of the conditions for the end. This alone shows why your interpretation to a single generation is in error.
It will also come as a theif in the night ...
1 THESSALONIANS 5:2-3 [2] For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. [3] For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. and his reward will be with him to give to everyman whatever that may be *REVELATION 22:11-12
According to the scriptures, just like mankind was destroyed with a flood, this time it comes with fire *2 PETER 3:7; 2 THESSALONIANS 1:8; REVELATION 14:10; REVELATION 21:15; REVELATION 21:7-8. The terribly wrong is sin and all of us a guilty of it unless we accept the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23 and turn away from sin *HEBREWS 10:26-39.
Hope this helps
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The end doesn’t say end of the world.
Did the flood come before or after Noah was rejected?
Were the Jews banished from Israel before or after they rejected Christ?
3rdAngel
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Not really. according to the scriptures, if it had happened the end would have come and it hasn't
3rdAngel
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Sure it does. You do not believe the scriptures though...
MATTHEW 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? (KJV)
What you have posted here does not make sense and does not address anything in the post you are quoting from. Noah was never rejected. God saved him and his family.
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Trailblazer
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Which translation of the scriptures?
Matthew 24:3
AMP
While Jesus was seated on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, and said, “Tell us, when will this [destruction of the temple] take place, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end (completion, consummation) of the age?”
AMPC
While He was seated on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately and said, Tell us, when will this take place, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end (the completion, the consummation) of the age?
CSB
While he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately and said, “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what is the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
CEB
Now while Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately and said, “Tell us, when will these things happen? What will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age?”
CJB
When he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the talmidim came to him privately. “Tell us,
DARBY
And as he was sitting upon the mount of Olives the disciples came to him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be, and what is the sign of thy coming and [the] completion of the age?
DLNT
And while He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us— when will these things happen? And what will be the sign of Your coming and the conclusion of the age?”
ESV
As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
ESVUK
As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?”
EXB
Later, as Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, his ·followers [disciples] came to be alone with him. They said, “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what will be the sign ·that it is time for you to come again [of your coming/return] and ·for this age to end [the end/consummation of the age]?”
GNT
As Jesus sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him in private. “Tell us when all this will be,” they asked, “and what will happen to show that it is the time for your coming and the end of the age.”
HCSB
While He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached Him privately and said, “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what is the sign of Your coming and of the end of the age?”
ISV
Now while Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately and said, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
PHILLIPS
And as he was sitting on the slope of the Mount of Olives his disciples came to him privately and said, “Tell us, when will this happen? What will be the signal for your coming and the end of this world?”
JUB
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming and of the end of the age?
LEB
And as he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came up to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
MEV
As He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end of the age?”
MOUNCE
And when he was seated on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when are these things to take place, and what will be the sign of your coming and the consummation of the age?”
NOG
As Yeshua was sitting on the Mount of Olives, his disciples came to him privately and said, “Tell us, when will this happen? What will be the sign that you are coming again, and when will the world come to an end?”
NABRE
As he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately and said, “Tell us, when will this happen, and what sign will there be of your coming, and of the end of the age?”
NASB
As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
NCV
Later, as Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, his followers came to be alone with him. They said, “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that it is time for you to come again and for this age to end?”
NET
As he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, his disciples came to him privately and said, “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
NIV
As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
NIVUK
As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. ‘Tell us,’ they said, ‘when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?’
NKJV
Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
NRSV
When he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
NRSVA
When he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, ‘Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?’
NRSVACE
When he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, ‘Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?’
NRSVCE
When he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
NTE
As he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, his disciples came to him privately. ‘Tell us,’ they said, ‘when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that you are going to appear as king, and that the end of the age is upon us?’
TPT
Later, when they arrived at the Mount of Olives, his disciples came privately to where he was sitting and said, “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what supernatural sign should we expect to signal your coming and the completion of this age?”
RSV
As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?”
RSVCE
As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?”
TLV
As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen? What will be the sign of Your coming and of the end of the age?”
VOICE
Later, as Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately. Disciples: We don’t understand Your predictions. Tell us, when will these things happen: When will the temple be destroyed? What will be the sign that You are returning? How will we know that the end of the age is upon us?
WEB
As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? What is the sign of your coming, and of the end of the age?”
YLT
And when he is sitting on the mount of the Olives, the disciples came near to him by himself, saying, `Tell us, when shall these be? and what [is] the sign of thy presence, and of the full end of the age?'
Seriously for one of the closest to enlightenment on the forum, you're being slow, when I've even posted a better picture on here.
This is a picture of me at 30 years old, having realized all the mind blowing prophecies, that had known since 5-6 years old.
The levels of comprehension that person is talking about, clearly doesn't understand the 7 forms of Yoga, and Chakras are interlinked or how that relates to Dimensional Quantum physics...
An Avatar should know the A to Z of reality; which is why Z and A, are the first, and last letter in the alphabet - with AnAndA in the Middle-line.
In my opinion.
Those who refused to enter the ship of the covenant with Noah were not spared and the reason they ignored Him is because they rejected His call to obey God.
Also the Jews were banished from Israel after they had killed Jesus not before.
And with the internet the Gospel has most definitely been preached a million times over throughout tye world daily. There really is no excuse except wilful clinging to tradition but of course that is your right and we respect that. Even though we don’t agree you are my brother so never mind that we disagree. Happy Christmas if you celebrate it.
3rdAngel
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I see the delema your facing. You say the second coming has already taken place yet here you are not able to prove it from the scriptures.
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3rdAngel
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Once again what has your post here have to do with the post you are quoting from and how does it address it? It doesn't