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What WW2 actually was: a war between banking powers

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
I also remind you that even that there were the racial laws, no Jew was touched.
It was the Germans who occupied Italy in 1943 and started deporting Italian Jews to Auschwitz.

Do you know what being an occupied country means? You have zero free will.

Like the occupied areas of Ukraine?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Your source doesn't mention Germany, so if it is reliable (I have no idea one way or the other) you're still proving yourself wrong
Well media from Israel is more reliable than some biased Anglo-Saxon stuff....I guess. ;)
 

libre

In flight
Staff member
Premium Member
I also remind you that even that there were the racial laws, no Jew was touched.
It was the Germans who occupied Italy in 1943 and started deporting Italian Jews to Auschwitz.

Do you know what being an occupied country means? You have zero free will.
Mussolini willingly allied with Hitler. He did not see antisemitism as a dealbreaker and did implement laws that barred jews from office as well as confiscate their assets. Trying to frame him as a victim and not a supporter is pathetic.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Mussolini willingly allied with Hitler. He did not see antisemitism as a dealbreaker and did implement laws that barred jews from office as well as confiscate their assets. Trying to frame him as a victim and not a supporter is pathetic.
I am sorry, but you didn't read history.
The Italian racial laws were very different from the German laws of Nuremberg.

There was no confiscation. Have you ever watched the movie Life is beautiful at least?
The family lived happy in their house until the Germans occupied Tuscany in 1944 and they were deported.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
I am sorry, but you didn't read history.
The Italian racial laws were very different from the German laws of Nuremberg.

There was no confiscation. Have you ever watched the movie Life is beautiful at least?
The family lived happy in their house until the Germans occupied Tuscany in 1944 and they were deported.

You're basing your facts on a movie?
 

justaguy313

Active Member
This is also quite an interesting read. Some might call it a conspiracy theory, but on the other hand you got movies like Piazza Fontana on Netflix nowadays and Mario Draghi declassified Gladio documents in Italy 3 years ago.

 

Ebionite

Well-Known Member
This is also quite an interesting read. Some might call it a conspiracy theory, but on the other hand you got movies like Piazza Fontana on Netflix nowadays and Mario Draghi declassified Gladio documents in Italy 3 years ago.

Sibel Edmonds talked about Gladio B, in which the European mafia were replaced by radical Islamists.

 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
About? Italy changing sides or Germany now being the safest place for Jewish people?
About that Fascists didn't deport anybody.
It was the Nazis who occupied the country in 1943 and started deporting Jews.
 
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John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
About that Facsists didn't deport anybody.
It was the Nazis who occupied the country in 1943 and started deporting Jews.

The 1938 Italian racial laws... The Italian Jewish Community during the Second World War - Life in Italy

“The population of Italy is of Aryan origins and its civilization is Aryan. There now exists


a pure Italian race and the Jews do not belong to that Italian race…”



From the text of the Fascist Racial Laws




"In the month of June 1942, Mussolini employed a few thousand Italian Jews for forced labour and, the following year, began preparing a plan to imprison as many Jews as possible in four labour camps: he never managed to do it, because his government fell on the 25th of July 1943, before he could carry out his plan."

Lots of interesting reading in there......
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
It's My Birthday!
Also thanks to a Polish professor who has become honorary member of the Nuremberg trials, I finally understood what pushed Nazi Germans (and the people behind the scenes funding Nazi Germany) to spend so much money on a very extenuating, destructive and self-destructive conflict that involved all European countries, or nearly. It was really something absolutely programmed: there was nothing causal or random in WW2.

It's a very complex and long story, but to simplify:
- the 1929 Crash was so devastating that the banking powers (Warburg, Rockefeller, whose interests were not affected by the Crash) understood they needed to compete with the Socialistic wind blowing in Europe. Socialism had triumphed in Russia, of course. But it had become successful in Italy too, since Mussolini was a socialist who compromised with the Nationalists (Fascists) to prevent a Soviet Revolution from taking place in the country.
But Socialism was being implemented in Britain, France, Germany, Scandinavia, as well. And Spain, above all: that will cause the breakout of the horrific Spanish Civil War.
- Between the twenties and the thirties, these banking powers decided to fund Hitler since they did know a Socialistic revolution was inevitable in Germany. And they did know that their rivals would have done anything to take over in Germany, after the Crash. These powers pushed the Nazis to build the most efficient and greatest military-industrial complex. Auschwitz was built by the IG Farben, the largest petrochemical industry in the world, at that time. Owned by Warburg, Rockfeller, Teagle, Ford and others.
- In 1939, those who funded Hitler, pushed him to conquer the East. Not only because they wanted to defeat the Soviet Union, but mainly because they wished to seize the oilfields in Baku, which were the largest and the richest in the world, at that time. And oil was absolutely fundamental, in the fourties.
- To sum up, WW2 was just a game of chess between two great banking dynasties or banking powers (R. and R.) who were gaming to conquer the resources of Europe and Eastern Europe. They funded the war and benefitted from the war, by selling warfare to the states.


When it comes to politics and war always look at who profits from the resources at the end of it. Resources are the forbidden fruit. And that is how you track the line of influence.

That being said, certainly banks play a big role. But they arent the sole cause. Tools also have to be manufactured to get support from those who are in the front lines doing the gruntwork, and these are also a cause in themselves. The key players wont be able to succeed without manufacturing consent.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don't know why but every time I see a picture of Mussolini it makes me think of George C Scott as Patton

Mussolini.jpg

Patton.jpg
Historical trivia....
Mussolini idolized GC Scott, & wanted to be
like him. He kept posters of the actor all over
his bedroom. His parents worried that he was
gay, & sent him to a de-conversion camp in the
Berchtesgaden Alps. There he met Hitler, where
instead of becoming straight, had a homosexual
affair with the would-be ruler of the world.
 
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