What WW2 actually was: a war between banking powers

[Revoltingest]

Italy was allied with Britain until 1935-1936.
Britain stopped being allied with us.
Do buzz London for complaints, dear.

So Italy, the jilted lover, sided with Hitler?
There's no justifying Italy's wanting Hitler
to prevail.

 

[Estro Felino]

So Italy, the jilted lover, sided with Hitler?
There's no justifying Italy's wanting Hitler
to prevail.

Sometimes it is better to appease, when an ally is too strong and close, geographically.

As you can see here, the Duce is looking at the king who does the military salute (not the fascist one), while the queen is embarrassed

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[Revoltingest]

Sometimes it is better to appease, when an ally is too strong and close, geographically.
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Joining Hitler wasn't one of those times.
Italy showed its true colors.
But if Italy is kept under NATO's thumb,
then perhaps Italy can be coerced into
serving good instead of evil.

 

[Estro Felino]

Joining Hitler wasn't one of those times.
Italy showed its true colors.
But if Italy is kept under NATO's thumb,
then perhaps Italy can be coerced into
serving good instead of evil.

Italy has never had a choice, in WW2

 

[Revoltingest]

Italy has never had a choice, in WW2

People who say there's no choice
usually do so to justify a bad choice.
Sure, it can be easier to cooperate
with evil. But then you're evil.

 

[Estro Felino]

People who say there's no choice
usually do so to justify a bad choice.
Sure, it can be easier to cooperate
with evil. But then you're evil.

...like Russians who say "we had no other choice" so we had to invade Donbas and wage a war in Ukraine.

 

[Augustus]

I will never believe in coincidences, I am sorry.

Numbers are not random.
You need to point out that there were ca. 12 million Jews from all over the world, at that time.
Six million were not only in Soviet Russia. They were scattered across all Eurasian countries, including Northern Africa.

That article talks about 6 million in Soviet Union.

And historical and journalistic numbers are often random (or to be more accurate plucked out of thin air).

If you want to make narratives around unconnected trivia it’s easy enough to do, especially when it supports preconceived notions.

 

[Estro Felino]

That article talks about 6 million in Soviet Union.

And historical and journalistic numbers are often random (or to be more accurate plucked out of thin air).

If you want to make narratives around unconnected trivia it’s easy enough to do, especially when it supports preconceived notions.

Provide me with evidence that there were six million Jews in Soviet Russia, in 1921 (year of the article).

 

[Estro Felino]

We Europeans will admit that Europeans planned the killing of fellow Europeans.

But there are peoples who can hardly admit that some of them (a very small percentage) played a role in their own brethren's killing.

Haavara Agreement - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Augustus]

Provide me with evidence that there were six million Jews in Soviet Russia, in 1921 (year of the article).

The article you quote as gospel truth says that.

My guess is it was largely plucked out of thin air, or at best a very approximate educated guess hence it is unremarkable.

Why does it seem so remarkable to you? What is it supposed to prove other than many regimes have persecuted Jews for many reasons?

 

[Estro Felino]

The article you quote as gospel truth says that.

My guess is it was largely plucked out of thin air, or at best a very approximate educated guess hence it is unremarkable.

Why does it seem so remarkable to you? What is it supposed to prove other than many regimes have persecuted Jews for many reasons?

Let's leave the question of numbers, aside.
This thread is about the role the banking dynasties played in the breakout of WW2.

Will you agree that the Auschwitz industrial complex was owned by the IG Farben?
And that IG Farben's stakes were owned by Warburg, Rockefeller, Ford, Teagle and others (American bankers)?
As for what happened in Auschwitz between 1939 and 1945.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

And the number six million?
It's a coincidence, right?

Why wouldn't it be?

Did you even read the article you posted a screenshot from?
It doesn't say that 6 million should be killed. It says that currently, 6 million are being prosecuted. As in: in total.
It doesn't even say they are killed. It says humiliated, tortured, persecuted, starved, hounded.

You are seeing patterns where there aren't any.
You see a similar figure, which is pointing to something very different then extermination , and your mind is adding in all sorts of things that aren't there.
Add in some "banker elites" (your go-to culprit subject for your daily conspiracy drivels) and there we go again...

Conspiracy theory number-i-lost-count.

You have nothing.

 

[Augustus]

Let's leave the question of numbers, aside.
This thread is about the role the banking dynasties played in the breakout of WW2.

Will you agree that the Auschwitz industrial complex was owned by the IG Farben?
And that IG Farben's stakes were owned by Warburg, Rockefeller, Ford, Teagle and others (American bankers)?
As for what happened in Auschwitz between 1939 and 1945.

It’s not surprising that extremists get power in times of crisis.

It’s not surprising that German industries built Nazi infrastructure.

It’s not surprising that British and American companies and engineers built the Soviet industrial machine.

It’s not surprising that the Soviets helped arm the Nazis and collaborated with them against the other European powers.

It’s not surprising that Germans helped build modern Russian military capacity.

None of this requires a shadowy banking elite controlling their marionettes.

 

[Revoltingest]

Why wouldn't it be?

Did you even read the article you posted a screenshot from?
It doesn't say that 6 million should be killed. It says that currently, 6 million are being prosecuted. As in: in total.
It doesn't even say they are killed. It says humiliated, tortured, persecuted, starved, hounded.

You are seeing patterns where there aren't any.
You see a similar figure, which is pointing to something very different then extermination , and your mind is adding in all sorts of things that aren't there.
Add in some "banker elites" (your go-to culprit subject for your daily conspiracy drivels) and there we go again...

Conspiracy theory number-i-lost-count.

You have nothing.

Among numerologists, all you need is a coincidence, no matter how slight.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Whether it would have or not is always debatable, but what is not debatable to me is taking actions that can lead to many deaths of children and other innocents as we're seeing. Governments come and go, but contributing to the killing of innocents is not acceptable for me to do or support.

Ukraine must fight to prevent their innocents being tortured and killed and prevent their own suffering. For them it's kill or be killed and fall to tyranny.

 

[Estro Felino]

It’s not surprising that extremists get power in times of crisis.

It’s not surprising that German industries built Nazi infrastructure.

It’s not surprising that British and American companies and engineers built the Soviet industrial machine.

It’s not surprising that the Soviets helped arm the Nazis and collaborated with them against the other European powers.

It’s not surprising that Germans helped build modern Russian military capacity.

None of this requires a shadowy banking elite controlling their marionettes.

You didn't address my point about IG Farben's ownership.

 

[Estro Felino]

Among numerologists, all you need is a coincidence, no matter how slight.

It's like a man Y who says: on July 3 2023, this man X will be killed with a gun (says the model of the gun).

On July 3 2023, the man X is killed with that kind of gun.

And the man Y will justify himself, shouting: It's just a coincidence. I tried to guess.
You guys are just conspiracy theorists and lunatics...

But you will believe that man, I bet.

 

[Revoltingest]

Ukraine must fight to prevent their innocents being tortured and killed and prevent their own suffering. For them it's kill or be killed and fall to tyranny.

But to some, tis best to surrender to Hitler, Putin,
& other such ilk, to suffer under oppression, &
too cooperate with evil...not fight it.

 

[Estro Felino]

Why wouldn't it be?

Did you even read the article you posted a screenshot from?
It doesn't say that 6 million should be killed. It says that currently, 6 million are being prosecuted. As in: in total.
It doesn't even say they are killed. It says humiliated, tortured, persecuted, starved, hounded.

You are seeing patterns where there aren't any.
You see a similar figure, which is pointing to something very different then extermination , and your mind is adding in all sorts of things that aren't there.
Add in some "banker elites" (your go-to culprit subject for your daily conspiracy drivels) and there we go again...

Conspiracy theory number-i-lost-count.

You have nothing.

Read the article I posted in post #80.
It does specify extermination.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's like a man Y who says: on July 3 2023, this man X will be killed with a gun (says the model of the gun).

On July 3 2023, the man X is killed with that kind of gun.

And the man Y will justify himself, shouting: It's just a coincidence. I tried to guess.
You guys are just conspiracy theorists and lunatics...

But you will believe that man, I bet.

Your hypothetical is vastly different from
your claim of prognostication / planning.
See post #112.