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What's the purpose behind believing in something that cannot be proven true?

chinu

chinu
Theists obviously disagree with you.


I don't need to. Theists clearly have their own reasons for attempting to prove their beliefs. Go ask them.

No need to go to any false theist.

One doesn’t become theist by just wearing religious costumes, and holding religious books in their hands etc etc.

Becoming true theist is more than enough task. That’s what I have heard.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
My answer is: No profit/benefit.
Hence, nobody believe something that cannot be proven to be true.

Actually, this is a very good question that often arise in the mind of an atheists. A very good question because.. Often, atheists get lost into thinkings finding answer to this question.

I really like this question because there's certainly something to be gained by NOT believing in claims until any evidence supports that belief.

BUT, what's the purpose behind believing in something that cannot be proven to be true? People unnecessarily dishonor theists.
There are plenty of benefits. Scientific research has shown that people who regularly attend religious services are healthier, happier, live longer, and have a buffer against depression and anxiety.
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
My answer is: No profit/benefit.
Hence, nobody believe something that cannot be proven to be true.

BUT, what's the purpose behind believing in something that cannot be proven to be true? People unnecessarily dishonor theists.

It might give people comfort, meaning and something to hope for.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
My answer is: No profit/benefit.
Hence, nobody believe something that cannot be proven to be true.

Actually, this is a very good question that often arise in the mind of an atheists. A very good question because.. Often, atheists get lost into thinkings finding answer to this question.

I really like this question because there's certainly something to be gained by NOT believing in claims until any evidence supports that belief.

BUT, what's the purpose behind believing in something that cannot be proven to be true? People unnecessarily dishonor theists.


Beliefs are very important. When all the facts are not known, we patch the gap with Beliefs. If Beliefs did not exist we would lock up just like my old computer when all the facts were not known.

I see no difference between theists and atheists. One believes God exists. One believes God does not exist. The only difference is the belief.

Science and Discovery so often start with a belief. The next step is to search for the truth so the facts can be known. Beliefs merely point a direction by which one should search for the real truth. Beliefs are the start of the journey and not the end.

Sometimes beliefs can be hard to prove. If one claims the belief can not be proven, does one really care about the truth by giving up on the search? I do not think so.

I think atheists and theists provide a great service to each other. They widen the view so that a larger picture can be seen. Perhaps together they can Discover the Real truth in time.

Throughout time, brains win. Further, there is always expanded thinking in front of us all. There is always more to Discover. Perhaps, one needs to be brave enough to venture into undiscovered country along with the effort it takes regardless of the time. One just might be surprised at what is capable of being Discovered. If we wait for others to do all the work and all the Discovering, the wait will be much much longer.

Is it really about Truth? How badly does one want the Truth??

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

ppp

Well-Known Member
Beliefs are very important. When all the facts are not known, we patch the gap with Beliefs.
Beliefs are important. But I don't know what happened to my car keys on my last day of college, and while I have wondered all these years, I have no beliefs about it.
If Beliefs did not exist we would lock up just like my old computer when all the facts were not known.
If you mean that we must sometimes form and act on tentative conclusions when we do not have sufficient evidence, that is true. But we must only do so when action is required. When it is not, we need to not need to form conclusions at all.
I see no difference between theists and atheists. One believes God exists. One believes God does not exist. The only difference is the belief.
A lot of atheists have not formed the conclusion that no gods exist. They just do not accept your claim that they do. They are unconvinced of your claim. Not convince of the contrary.

But even for the subset of atheists who do believe that no gods exist; the difference between their belief and that of the theist, is that their belief that no gods exist is falsifiable. The theist belief is not - hence necessarily irrational.

Science and Discovery so often start with a belief. The next step is to search for the truth so the facts can be known. Beliefs merely point a direction by which one should search for the real truth. Beliefs are the start of the journey and not the end.
You don't have to form a belief to search for answers. I don't have to have beliefs about how a firefly glows in order to investigate and find out.
Sometimes beliefs can be hard to prove. If one claims the belief can not be proven, does one really care about the truth by giving up on the search? I do not think so.
They don't care enough about whether or not the claim is true to withhold belief pending sufficient evidence.
I think atheists and theists provide a great service to each other. They widen the view so that a larger picture can be seen. Perhaps together they can Discover the Real truth in time.
Theists shut down investigation by claiming that they know the truth about X and that truth is not only unquestionable; but any who question it are immature or deviant or deranged or dangerous or evil.
Throughout time, brains win. Further, there is always expanded thinking in front of us all. There is always more to Discover. Perhaps, one needs to be brave enough to venture into undiscovered country along with the effort it takes regardless of the time. One just might be surprised at what is capable of being Discovered. If we wait for others to do all the work and all the Discovering, the wait will be much much longer.
In this we agree.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
My answer is: No profit/benefit.
Hence, nobody believe something that cannot be proven to be true.

Actually, this is a very good question that often arise in the mind of an atheists. A very good question because.. Often, atheists get lost into thinkings finding answer to this question.

I really like this question because there's certainly something to be gained by NOT believing in claims until any evidence supports that belief.

BUT, what's the purpose behind believing in something that cannot be proven to be true? People unnecessarily dishonor theists.
Doubt. Doubt is a purpose unto itself.

One doesn't have to doubt unless they belong to the cult of doubt.
 

chinu

chinu
You're all false theists. There isn't anyone else to go to.

Of course not. You become a theist by believing that at least one god exists. That's it.
What's the benefit of doing so. can you list any single ?

Please stop dishonouring without any reason.
 
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chinu

chinu
There are plenty of benefits. Scientific research has shown that people who regularly attend religious services are healthier, happier, live longer, and have a buffer against depression and anxiety.

Healthier, happier & live longer is NOT the case for ALL theists. Some do, and at the same time others don't. All it depends on one's own past deeds. True theist accepts the result of both good and bad deeds without any question. Whereas, buffer against depression and anxiety is just the by product of accepting the result of deed's without any question, NOT benefit.
 

chinu

chinu
It might give people comfort, meaning and something to hope for.
Might ?
Oh come on, please don't use this word "Might" again and again. Please stop making guesses. I already wrote in OP that.. Often, atheists get lost into thinkings finding answer to this question.

Be SURE and say something. :)
 

chinu

chinu
Beliefs are very important. When all the facts are not known, we patch the gap with Beliefs. If Beliefs did not exist we would lock up just like my old computer when all the facts were not known.

I see no difference between theists and atheists. One believes God exists. One believes God does not exist. The only difference is the belief.

Science and Discovery so often start with a belief. The next step is to search for the truth so the facts can be known. Beliefs merely point a direction by which one should search for the real truth. Beliefs are the start of the journey and not the end.

Sometimes beliefs can be hard to prove. If one claims the belief can not be proven, does one really care about the truth by giving up on the search? I do not think so.

I think atheists and theists provide a great service to each other. They widen the view so that a larger picture can be seen. Perhaps together they can Discover the Real truth in time.

Throughout time, brains win. Further, there is always expanded thinking in front of us all. There is always more to Discover. Perhaps, one needs to be brave enough to venture into undiscovered country along with the effort it takes regardless of the time. One just might be surprised at what is capable of being Discovered. If we wait for others to do all the work and all the Discovering, the wait will be much much longer.

Is it really about Truth? How badly does one want the Truth??

That's what I see. It's very clear!!

Important ?

OP does NOT ask to point out any kind of importance. Of course "God" is important, in fact most important :)

But, here OP asks.. what's the purpose behind believing in something that cannot be proven to be true? People unnecessarily dishonor theists.
 
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