Acintya_Ash
Bhakta
A non-theist has to be Self-Reliant, whereas theists are God ReliantNot for a non-theist. I do agree though with the principle of finding the "essence", though that might not be straightforward.
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A non-theist has to be Self-Reliant, whereas theists are God ReliantNot for a non-theist. I do agree though with the principle of finding the "essence", though that might not be straightforward.
I've been exploring Islam as a potential spiritual path, but like the Bible, there are things within the religion that I will not accept. I don't believe that God for example (at least my idea of him/it) would dictate for men to have dominion over women, like is characterized in the Qur'an. Unlike Christianity, where I struggle to believe the Gospels which is vital to calling one's self a Christian, I don't have issues with the core message of Islam, but take issue with how women are viewed.
I will never believe that God is punishing women for what happened in Genesis and I don't believe that men should be striking women who "don't obey" as can be found in the Qur'an. It's not taken out of context, it states that as plain as day.
So, why can't we cherry pick what makes logical and spiritual sense? God gave us a brain to think for ourselves not to become drones obedient to verses that sound like they were designed by men. But sadly, there are verses such as male circumcision that I disagree with too. Why is there always abuse of some sort as part of the Abrahamic faiths?
There is so much beauty in Islam but I can't rationalize some of these verses.
What are your thoughts?
The dominion that men have over women is no different to the dominion a mother has over her children.
As for 'hitting women' this too must be understood from a Fiqh perspective so as far as your view goes, it is wrong. Lay Muslims like myself are not allowed to read a verse and interpret it how they see it or understand it. The Qur'an generally gives a command, which is then either expanded by other verses or hadith of the Prophet. The Scholars of Fiqh then give a ruling based on these evidences.
For what reason did God have the Prophet write the Qur'an in this way, rather than in a way which was comprehensible to lay people? Was it because it wouldn't have been possible to include as much?
The Qur'an is as such in order to guide people, it is the base of Islam and then the Prophet was the one living it in it's entirety(he was a walking Qur'an) to show people how it is meant to be understood and followed . It's like how people used to navigate with stars. You have to find your way around the earth, but you have the stars in the sky as a reference. And obviously those who studied star navigation would have maps and expertise in what was the best way to go about, the same as how Scholars are viewed in Islam. They have the expertise to connect the saying/actions of our Prophet to the Qur'an.
Btw, beating wife and hurting her, and beating the face no matter what, is forbidden in Islam. People always neglect the context of the verse and other governing rules in Islam. Also, it only applies to the wife that makes a sin, and after the first two steps that the same verse tells, which are advising then ignoring. Advising is self explanatory and ignoring is naturally tough enough on women. Oh, and ignoring is something allowed to be done at home only. In public and with other people the husband should never ever ignore his wife no matter what.
Beating face is actually a generally forbidden act in Islam and specifically, in this context, for wives.
I repeat, only sinful women are the ones that the tickle-like beating the verse suggests applies on. Simply beating the wife is not allowed in Islam. I think I did mention that in *audi *rabia beating the wife is a crime. Yes, in *audi *rabia, the most radial Muslim country.
But I admit, what some Muslims do of violent beating is something disgusting, whither based on wrong understanding of the verse, or being sinful. But then again, domestic violence against wives is world wide.
Can a woman perform the same punishments on her husband? If not, how come?
A non-theist has to be Self-Reliant, whereas theists are God Reliant
Can a woman perform the same punishments on her husband? If not, how come?
Rituals bring peace of mind and strengthen our Devotion to God. Try regulating it, you'll realize the difference
The reason i said heart because heart shows people what is right. Anyways this is still called Belief. We believe for that reason.
Also others believe that their religions is truth. So the death will bring the good news or the bad news.
Every human is preparing for that, except atheists. Entering the death unprepared. People like them will wish in the grave and on judgement day that they could return to Earth so they become believers.
"God helps those who help themselves".A non-theist has to be Self-Reliant, whereas theists are God Reliant
Bhagavad Gita 9.29:"God helps those who help themselves".
Grew up in catholic schools.....lots of ritual and recital....
I now deem it to be shallow.
Actually, a non-theist also relies on the Lord.A non-theist has to be Self-Reliant, whereas theists are God Reliant
That's right! pardon my ignoranceActually, a non-theist also relies on the Lord.
Self Reliant, meaning relying on the Self, the Self who is Narayana.
whereas theists are God Reliant
When you do something with dedication, even if its a little, it will make a difference...than half-hearted efforts.
Right, the property is not destroyed and can still be used. About John Calvin, I agree. He must have been a soldier of God.A green stick will not shatter when you strike your female property (wife) with it, but will remain effectively stinging, strike after strike across her disobedient back. (How's that for a nice picture).
I think of John Calvin who ordered this religious heretic he disagreed with theologically be burned with green wood. The reason? Because green would takes longer to come to flame and burns much more slowly and at a lower heat. He wanted this man to suffer a more prolonged and tortuous death. Nice guy. So deeply in touch with God.
Are the scholars of Fiqh wiser than Allah? And do you accuse Allah of being ambiguous in his instructions?The Qur'an generally gives a command, which is then either expanded by other verses or hadith of the Prophet. The Scholars of Fiqh then give a ruling based on these evidences.