What's Wrong With Suffering?

[Trailblazer]

First I shouldn't think God allows suffering, but when it happens he can only show his love to us and help us through difficult times, that's all.

How does God do that? How can you know God is DOING THAT?

 

[Trailblazer]

I suffer from a small bladder. Ef God, right.

I'd hardly call that suffering...Suffering is relative.... Have you ever been suicidal? Do you wish you were dead much of the time but dread the afterlife and living forever?

 

[Trailblazer]

So we don't like suffering. Does that make it bad? I don't like pissing but ignoring it is problematic.

Suffering is not necessarily bad unless it makes one unable to accomplish daily tasks that are necessary for living... It's called depression.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Ever been suicidal?

That's not an answer? That's a question. See that "?" thing at the end of the sentence? That makes it a question.

Leave the Socratic method to me please.

 

[Trailblazer]

Hogwash. Makes me turn toward Him.

That does not work for everyone.
Besides, not everyone even believes in "Him."

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Suffering is not necessarily bad unless it makes one unable to accomplish daily tasks that are necessary for living... It's called depression.

That makes it undesirable not bad. I enjoy my deppresions.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

I'd hardly call that suffering...Suffering is relative.

So suffering needs conditions before it becomes bad? Like who it happens to?

 

[Trailblazer]

I suffered a colonoscopy once. What did I lose?

Have you ever been suicidal multiple times? Do you usually wish you were dead but do not like the idea of more suffering forever in an afterlife? Physical pain is physical pain. Mental-emotional anguish is suffering.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

That does not work for everyone.

So, suffering is up to each person? Suppose I enjoy suffering? Then suffering is good, yes?

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Have you ever been suicidal multiple times? Do you usually wish you were dead but do not like the idea of more suffering forever in an afterlife? Physical pain is physical pain. Mental-emotional anguish is suffering.

Ok. Sounds like you have an agenda.

 

[Trailblazer]

I put this in the Religious Debate section because I often hear that God is bad because He allows suffering. Alright, pony up. What's wrong with suffering.

Define wrong as you use the word.

 

[Trailblazer]

Trailblazer said: Ever been suicidal?

sandy whitelinger said: That's not an answer? That's a question. See that "?" thing at the end of the sentence? That makes it a question.

Why am I not allowed to ask a question?
You can just answer yes or no.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Define wrong as you use the word.

Not correct or true. Just like the dictionary.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Oh I see, now "unjustifiable" suffering is bad. But my diarrhea is ok, then, because the chicken wings justified it.

All suffering is negative. Some actions cause more suffering without a balancing positive effect, which makes it unjustifiable. I'm not understanding why you're having trouble with this.

 

[Trailblazer]

I enjoy my deppresions.

If you enjoy them they are not depression, by definition.

 

[Trailblazer]

Not correct or true. Just like the dictionary.

Okay then, suffering is not always wrong.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

All suffering is negative. Some actions cause more suffering without a balancing positive effect, which makes it unjustifiable. I'm not understanding why you're having trouble with this.

I see no correlation between the definition of negative and suffering. That's why.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Okay then, suffering is not always wrong.

When is it not correct or true?

 

[Trailblazer]

So suffering needs conditions before it becomes bad? Like who it happens to?

Suffering needs to serve a purpose to be good. Otherwise it is bad because it serves no purpose.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

If you enjoy them they are not depression, by definition.

And where in the definition of depression does that come from?

It seems to me the best case you are offering is by misusing words.