whats your beef with brexit?

[Altfish]

Unfortunately this is not a game. The Italians are disgusted because last May they have seen how far the Brussels élites can go...they have tried to prevent the euroskeptics legitimately elected from ruling.
The same élites are now manipulating the British Parliament.

It is a game to those I listed.
To me it isn't a game, my children and grandchildren's futures are at stake

 

[Notanumber]

"WE WANT OUR SOVEREIGNTY BACK"

That EU puppet Bercow and his conspirators are destroying that!

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

They did not doorstep her and intimidate her children as was done to Jacob.

She is a despicable Remoaner and confirms that I was right to vote Leave.

So you picked the side that murdered one MP and threatens another over the side that made somebody feel uncomfortable about their privilege? You really need to sort out your priorities.

The Speaker is supposed to be impartial.

If the Speaker is leaving open the possibility for a People's Vote then he is being impartial. Bercow's not forcing Parliament to have one, he's presenting them with a choice. That thing you Quitlers seem to fear above all else.

'What if the people are allowed to choose again?! We can't take the decision back to them; that's not how democracy functions!!'


Preventing one is not impartial; it is partial. Specifically it is taking the Quitler stance on the issue.

 

[Altfish]

That EU puppet Bercow and his conspirators are destroying that!

Blame everyone apart from Leavers.

Very sad state of affairs.

 

[Notanumber]

Bercow has proved beyond any doubt that he is just the right sort of despicable that will fit in very well when he gets his EU position.

Corruption is the Remoaner’s middle name.

We need to drain the swamp!

As Jeff says –

Instead of viewing the UK political landscape as all about a Brexit endgame, maybe it's already beginning to shift towards the opening moves of post WTO Brexit, UK politics.
While some backward looking reactionary people scrabble about trying to salvage the unsalvageable, maybe the two generals are now looking at it in a different way and deciding on how best to put it to the public that they are the best person with the vision to make the most of a WTO exit from the EU and take the UK out into the wider world in prosperity.
For both May and Corbyn a WTO exit would totally lance the EU boil that has festered on both their party's backsides for decades. It would also herald a very welcome return, for them, to the pure two party state domestic politics of red versus blue.
There would be no EU angle to distract them. A clean WTO Brexit would force the Tories and Labour to coalesce around their own individual party beliefs at both party and wider support levels.
It would also force all politicians to formulate policies, however different they were, that are totally UK centred and without the need to run to Brussels to have them signed off.
Wouldn't all that sound attractive to you, were you a political party leader?

If only the Remoaner’s had the moral fibre and national pride that these two talk about –

I wish we could trade in May for Peta Credlin.

 

[ChristineM]

I suspect there is little behind it then, not without more evidence anyway.

I am with you on that.

Would be dramatically interesting if there were something in it

 

[Estro Felino]

It is a game to those I listed.
To me it isn't a game, my children and grandchildren's futures are at stake

The European peoples aren't well.
My people is suffering terribly because of the EU; in France 13 people died to protest the Macron's pro-EU madness.

Please, just consider that. That Brexit is the candle of hope to all of us to change a rotten system

 

[Altfish]

The European peoples aren't well.
My people is suffering terribly because of the EU; in France 13 people died to protest the Macron's pro-EU madness.

Please, just consider that. That Brexit is the candle of hope to all of us to change a rotten system

You do talk rubbish at times

 

[Notanumber]

I believe that someone has been arrested over this.

How many times have the Left called the Right Nazis?

Have any of those been arrested?

I like how the BBC interviewer reacted when the queen of Remoan Soubry started to moan on camera.

If I were a Remainer, I would jump ship I rather than be associated with the Remoaning Left.

The likes of Sourbry and Jones should just be ignored, that would hurt them the most.

 

[Estro Felino]

How many times have the Left called the Right Nazis?

 

[Notanumber]

Borderline dictatorial countries across the world are looking at what Bercow and the Remoaners did to the Mother of Parliaments and are now wondering how on earth they can promote democracy in their political systems.

British democracy is being shredded and for what, to remain in an undemocratic institution that treats its citizens in such an appalling manner.

 

[Altfish]

Borderline dictatorial countries across the world are looking at what Bercow and the Remoaners did to the Mother of Parliaments and are now wondering how on earth they can promote democracy in their political systems.

British democracy is being shredded and for what, to remain in an undemocratic institution that treats its citizens in such an appalling manner.

"We want our sovereignty back"

But as soon as we get it back we are not happy ... priceless

 

[Notanumber]

"We want our sovereignty back"

But as soon as we get it back we are not happy ... priceless

We did not vote for corruption, there is more than enough of that in the EU.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Bercow has proved beyond any doubt that he is just the right sort of despicable that will fit in very well when he gets his EU position.

To be fair, I suspect Bercow is much more interested in a for-life peerage and the unaccountable power over lawmaking it presents than any position within Brussels which will probably pay less.

Corruption is the Remoaner’s middle name.

It's rather cute that you only just started noticing the Conservative Party is corrupt now they're not doing precisely what you want them to. Still, the fact you're up to speed is something to be commended at least

We need to drain the swamp!

And as with Trump's case, that didn't really work out so well. When he said "we need to drain the swamp!" he really meant he wanted to replace people who weren't working for his personal interests with people who were.

As Jeff says –

Instead of viewing the UK political landscape as all about a Brexit endgame, maybe it's already beginning to shift towards the opening moves of post WTO Brexit, UK politics.
While some backward looking reactionary people scrabble about trying to salvage the unsalvageable, maybe the two generals are now looking at it in a different way and deciding on how best to put it to the public that they are the best person with the vision to make the most of a WTO exit from the EU and take the UK out into the wider world in prosperity.
For both May and Corbyn a WTO exit would totally lance the EU boil that has festered on both their party's backsides for decades. It would also herald a very welcome return, for them, to the pure two party state domestic politics of red versus blue.
There would be no EU angle to distract them. A clean WTO Brexit would force the Tories and Labour to coalesce around their own individual party beliefs at both party and wider support levels.
It would also force all politicians to formulate policies, however different they were, that are totally UK centred and without the need to run to Brussels to have them signed off.
Wouldn't all that sound attractive to you, were you a political party leader?

I suspect he's probably right in part. For the British political class, Brexit presents a chance to remove checks and balances that come with being an EU member, and having to abide by agreed-upon rules.

I'm still not sure how you can say the EU is less democratic than organisation fronted by the likes of Russia, China & Saudi Arabia considering all of these countries are tyrannies and will just bully a post-Brexit UK.

If only the Remoaner’s had the moral fibre and national pride that these two talk about –

Do you mean the moral fibre that comes from siding with the far-right? Or perhaps the moral fibre that encourages you to harass your political opponents or just straight up murder them in the streets? What about the sort of moral fibre that keeps you proposing we accept the result of an advisory referendum which was won through copious amounts of cheating and vote-rigging?

Do you really think the UK deserves to be taken down such a path? Do you have such little faith in it and its people that you need to support a campaign based on nothing but lies, fraud, and law-breaking?

I believe that someone has been arrested over this.

His name is James Goddard and he hates the EU so much he's been living in Spain for years.

How many times have the Left called the Right Nazis?

At least as many times as the Right have acted like Nazis.

Have any of those been arrested?

How many times have members on the Left cornered a politician and harassed them through the streets? I like Soubry about as much as I like any Tory (i.e. not at all) but I think the attitudes on display by her harassers stems from the sort of mentality that led to the murder of Jo Cox MP.

I like how the BBC interviewer reacted when the queen of Remoan Soubry started to moan on camera.

I love how Soubry talking about being called a Nazi is 'moaning' but the Rees-Moggs family talking about they were door-stepped is not. Care to explain your double standard?

The likes of Sourbry and Jones should just be ignored, that would hurt them the most.

You haven't got it in you. I think if you went a week without calling anybody a Remoaner your head would explode.

We did not vote for corruption, there is more than enough of that in the EU.

If you voted to restore Parliamentary sovereignty then yes you actually did vote for corruption. It's been going on in British political circles for quite some time.

 

[Notanumber]

To be fair, I suspect Bercow is much more interested in a for-life peerage and the unaccountable power over lawmaking it presents than any position within Brussels which will probably pay less.

It's rather cute that you only just started noticing the Conservative Party is corrupt now they're not doing precisely what you want them to. Still, the fact you're up to speed is something to be commended at least

And as with Trump's case, that didn't really work out so well. When he said "we need to drain the swamp!" he really meant he wanted to replace people who weren't working for his personal interests with people who were.

I suspect he's probably right in part. For the British political class, Brexit presents a chance to remove checks and balances that come with being an EU member, and having to abide by agreed-upon rules.

I'm still not sure how you can say the EU is less democratic than organisation fronted by the likes of Russia, China & Saudi Arabia considering all of these countries are tyrannies and will just bully a post-Brexit UK.

Do you mean the moral fibre that comes from siding with the far-right? Or perhaps the moral fibre that encourages you to harass your political opponents or just straight up murder them in the streets? What about the sort of moral fibre that keeps you proposing we accept the result of an advisory referendum which was won through copious amounts of cheating and vote-rigging?

Do you really think the UK deserves to be taken down such a path? Do you have such little faith in it and its people that you need to support a campaign based on nothing but lies, fraud, and law-breaking?

At least as many times as the Right have acted like Nazis.

How many times have members on the Left cornered a politician and harassed them through the streets? I like Soubry about as much as I like any Tory (i.e. not at all) but I think the attitudes on display by her harassers stems from the sort of mentality that led to the murder of Jo Cox MP.

I love how Soubry talking about being called a Nazi is 'moaning' but the Rees-Moggs family talking about they were door-stepped is not. Care to explain your double standard?

You haven't got it in you. I think if you went a week without calling anybody a Remoaner your head would explode.

If you voted to restore Parliamentary sovereignty then yes you actually did vote for corruption. It's been going on in British political circles for quite some time.

Not all Tories and not all Labour members are Remoaners.

These are the ones that believe in democracy and accountability.

If the Commons deprives us of our democratic vote this time, they will haemorrhage votes in future on a massive scale.

 

[Notanumber]

No wonder the world is laughing at our so-called democratic parliament.

What a shambles the Remoaners have turned the UK into.

 

[Altfish]

No wonder the world is laughing at our so-called democratic parliament.

What a shambles the Remoaners have turned the UK into.

It is the Leavers doing all the moaning - it is all you've done since you won the Referendum - with help from Russia and other dodgy money.

 

[Notanumber]

It is the Leavers doing all the moaning - it is all you've done since you won the Referendum - with help from Russia and other dodgy money.

Give me Tommy Robinson over Bercow any day. At least Tommy has British values.

 

[ChristineM]

No wonder the world is laughing at our so-called democratic parliament.

What a shambles the Remoaners have turned the UK into.

If it were democratic the uk would not be in the mess it is in now. 37% is not a true democratic decision.

Sorry bud, its the blind ignorance and lies of the leave brigade who are responsible for their actions, and the mess to come

 

[ChristineM]

Give me Tommy Robinson over Bercow any day. At least Tommy has British values.

He has? Ask him if you can borrow them.