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whats your beef with brexit?

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I have never claimed to be a Politically Correct liberal but I am not vengeful either.

I believe in fair play for anyone that has paid his or her debt to society.

Anyone that is breaking the law should be brought to justice equally and without favour.

BTW, there is a big difference between Remainers and Remoaners. Remainers have accepted the will of the people.

ROFLMAO

Yes, Yaxley Lennon has been brought to justice... Many times... And all you do is whine when his criminal record is highlighted


BTW will of the people. More laughing

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Notanumber

A Free Man
ROFLMAO

Yes, Yaxley Lennon has been brought to justice... Many times... And all you do is whine when his criminal record is highlighted


BTW will of the people. More laughing

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What is wrong with the laws of the land being applied equally without fear or favour?

If you Remoaners got your way (to stop you from whining), what is the question that you would put on the ballot paper?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
What is wrong with the laws of the land being applied equally without fear or favour?

If you Remoaners got your way (to stop you from whining), what is the question that you would put on the ballot paper?

They were, that seems to upset you

Moot point. But nothing more than i expected in justification of you "will of the people" claim
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
What is wrong with the laws of the land being applied equally without fear or favour?

If you Remoaners got your way (to stop you from whining), what is the question that you would put on the ballot paper?
I'm not sure of the practicalities of a second ballot but it would have to be a transferable vote ballot with electors selecting a first and second choice.
The trouble is our electorate is stupid and probably can't handled such a ballot.

But my options would be...
1. Accept May's Deal
2. Crash out with 'No Deal'
3. Remain in EU

To win you must get 50% +
If after first vote no option has reached 50%, the lowest one drops off and those who chose that option have their vote changed to the second option.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
I have never known the winners of an election be so 'Annoyed and Angry' - it would be funny to watch if it wasn't so tragic.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I have never known the winners of an election be so 'Annoyed and Angry' - it would be funny to watch if it wasn't so tragic.


Actually there are many. I think the problem is that they won by deceit but cant admit it

And the percentage of vote they received was so tiny its embarrassing to them

To justify themselves they have to make up stories like "will of the people" when they know the claim is total BS

All of which frustrates them and it manifests in anger.

Of course promoting a hateful agitator like Yaxley Lennon as being brave like he lays down his life for his country every day was perhaps a step to far into moronic idiocy.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Double standards are great when it suits you.

Stop accusing everyone else of doing what you're doing. It's seriously Orwellian.


Equality for everyone is my motto.

Great. So you won't be moaning about Lennon's jail time now as he was treated the same way anyone else on a suspended sentence would be.


Try telling that to the members of that new independence company that is now sitting in the Commons.

Every member of that group belonged to the Labour or Conservative Parties when they were last voted in. But I see your point and I agree that private company has no place in Parliament.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
I have never known the winners of an election be so 'Annoyed and Angry' - it would be funny to watch if it wasn't so tragic.

How can you say that the Leavers are the winners when the goal posts keep moving?

The rest of the world is laughing at us because we handed our win over to duplicitous Remoaners.

BTW, I am disgusted, not angry.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
How can you say that the Leavers are the winners when the goal posts keep moving?

The rest of the world is laughing at us because we handed our win over to duplicitous Remoaners.

BTW, I am disgusted, not angry.
I've said since the referendum result was known that leaving the EU would be a disaster AND that the Brexiteers will blame the disastrous outcome on Remainers.
It is not often I get things right in politics but on this occasion I have.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
I've said since the referendum result was known that leaving the EU would be a disaster AND that the Brexiteers will blame the disastrous outcome on Remainers.
It is not often I get things right in politics but on this occasion I have.

If the UK fails to leave with WTO rules on the 29th and Parliament votes for an extension it must be on condition that the PM resigns and we have a snap General Election.

This is the only way we will be able to vote in a party that will carry out the will of the people.

Let’s face it. We did not know what we were voting for last time. We just relied on their manifestoes and false promises.

 

Altfish

Veteran Member
If the UK fails to leave with WTO rules on the 29th and Parliament votes for an extension it must be on condition that the PM resigns and we have a snap General Election.

This is the only way we will be able to vote in a party that will carry out the will of the people.

Let’s face it. We did not know what we were voting for last time. We just relied on their manifestoes and false promises.
There will be a 'deal', there always is in these brinksman like situations. WTO would be the worse possible outcome and send the UK and possibly the EU into recession.
If there is an election it will be a Tory win with a bigger majority, who their leader will be is anyone's guess. Hopefully someone competent, but that doesn't give them many options. Please don't let it be Davis, Johnson or Rees-Mogg but in these post-truth days, I suspect it will be one of those.
 
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Notanumber

A Free Man
All those that do not believe in EU mission creep should watch this video.


Our EU supporting governments have been spinning lies since the start.

For decades we have swallowed those lies hook, line and sinker. This is why Cameron and Osbourne did not bother to make any plans for our withdrawal.

They just assumed that the tried and trusted spinning was still working as it had done so well in the past.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
You have a serious problem NAN; you are stuck in the Bubble. Badly stuck in the Bubble

Now, I admit, I watch videos from my end of the spectrum but I always take them with a pinch of salt - knowing they will be bias, hence why I don't post them on here. But you seem unable to do this.
On the rare occasion I post of video, it is one that I consider unbiased, no agenda - you then (just like Trump and his supporters) scream, "Fake news, bias, lies or Project Fear"
You need to accept that all of the MSM is NOT lying, ok The Mail and The Sun and the likes are in the pockets of the ERG but much of what is out there is just reporting facts.

Try watching TLDR videos, visit Full Fact website - they are NOT biased, they just report.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
You have a serious problem NAN; you are stuck in the Bubble. Badly stuck in the Bubble

Now, I admit, I watch videos from my end of the spectrum but I always take them with a pinch of salt - knowing they will be bias, hence why I don't post them on here. But you seem unable to do this.
On the rare occasion I post of video, it is one that I consider unbiased, no agenda - you then (just like Trump and his supporters) scream, "Fake news, bias, lies or Project Fear"
You need to accept that all of the MSM is NOT lying, ok The Mail and The Sun and the likes are in the pockets of the ERG but much of what is out there is just reporting facts.

Try watching TLDR videos, visit Full Fact website - they are NOT biased, they just report.

Do you seriously believe that Rompuy has been framed and that Verhofstadt is a really nice person?

Do you believe that the young reformed Remainer that now wants to leave the EU with no deal has now lost her moral compass?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Do you seriously believe that Rompuy has been framed and that Verhofstadt is a really nice person?

Do you believe that the young reformed Remainer that now wants to leave the EU with no deal has now lost her moral compass?
I don't know...but ask the same question about Johnson and Rees-Mogg
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Are you a Phoney Blair supporter?


The Conservative Party are a spent force now that they have been found out.


The Labour Party is floundering under its weak leadership.

I am backing Britain so I have given another donation to UKIP.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Are you a Phoney Blair supporter?


I am backing Britain so I have given another donation to UKIP.
No, Blair has never been forgiven for going to war. But his stance on Brexit is not far from mine.

Money to UKIP - they'll be able to purchase some knuckle dusters.
As an aside, I've never given any money to any political party.
 
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