whats your beef with brexit?

[England my lionheart]

So you ignore the almost half the population, cool democracy you got there

Ignore no,I do understand that "almost half the population" wasn't enough to win.

 

[England my lionheart]

See, that's not what was said in June 2016.

Sovereignty was a buzz word in the referendum,"taking back control" a buzzy phrase too and In away faintly true.

 

[ChristineM]

Ignore no,I do understand that "almost half the population" wasn't enough to win.

You mean almost 70% of the population

 

[England my lionheart]

You mean almost 70% of the population

If 70% of the population voted remain we wouldn't be debating.

 

[ChristineM]

If 70% of the population voted remain we wouldn't be debating.

70%+ did not vote to leace

 

[Notanumber]

How to reconcile the country - Not

This country is going down fast, it will not recover in my life; I'm so disappointed with the right wing money people who have got us here, the press that hide the truth if it doesn't suit their agenda.
The likes of Rees-Mogg and Bannon and Johnson and Tim Martin will be quids in if we crash out.

I am glad that I don’t worship money or envy those that have more than I do.

 

[Notanumber]

What a sorry excuse. You could have spared me from the time wasted reading it and yourself from the time wasted typing it.



You are in denial.

Does the EU give money to Brazil, if so, how much?

 

[England my lionheart]

70%+ did not vote to leace

Or rather did not vote

70%+ did not vote to leace

How does this argument work?

 

[ChristineM]

Or rather did not vote


How does this argument work?

As i said, more than 70% did not vote to leave.

 

[LuisDantas]

Does the EU give money to Brazil, if so, how much?

What do you even mean by "giving money"? Are we talking about trade?

Surely you know that there has been very recent talk about a trade deal? And that our own comedian chief of the executive blundered it?

 

[England my lionheart]

As i said, more than 70% did not vote to leave.

Or didn't vote

 

[ChristineM]

Or didn't vote

Yes, and? Are you saying my figure is wrong?

 

[LuisDantas]

The point, @England my lionheart , is that it is at the very least legit to ask whether such a result has - or should even be allowed to claim - such impressive power without the ability of Parliament to overrule it.

You do not vote for your generals, your engineers, or even your cabinet ministers. And by the same token, it is not a direct referendum's business to rule on anything nearly as major and technical as a "Brexit" - something that, to this day, is only defended because it is skilfully presented in a very ambiguous way that hides how undefined and destructive it would be.

The 2016 referendum would probably not even happen had it been proposed as legally binding back in the day.

In a way, it is too bad that it wasn't. Would have spared the British a lot of grief and harm.

 

[England my lionheart]

The point, @England my lionheart , is that it is at the very least legit to ask whether such a result has - or should even be allowed to claim - such impressive power without the ability of Parliament to overrule it.

You do not vote for your generals, your engineers, or even your cabinet ministers. And by the same token, it is not a direct referendum's business to rule on anything nearly as major and technical as a "Brexit" - something that, to this day, is only defended because it is skilfully presented in a very ambiguous way that hides how undefined and destructive it would be.

The 2016 referendum would probably not even happen had it been proposed as legally binding back in the day.

In a way, it is too bad that it wasn't. Would have spared the British a lot of grief and harm.

Government could have overruled it,as I said before,government is sovereign and by proposing and endorsing the referendum it becomes legal.

 

[LuisDantas]

Government could have overruled it,as I said before,government is sovereign and by proposing and endorsing the referendum it becomes legal.

I somewhat agree. The Tories were irresponsible in not overruling it.

 

[England my lionheart]

I somewhat agree. The Tories were irresponsible in not overruling it.

Yet the preferred outcome for Cameron was remain,although I was never an admirer of his at least he was true to his word.

 

[ratiocinator]

Government could have overruled it,as I said before,government is sovereign...

No, the government isn't sovereign, Parliament is sovereign.

Parliamentary sovereignty is a principle of the UK constitution. It makes Parliament the supreme legal authority in the UK, which can create or end any law. Generally, the courts cannot overrule its legislation and no Parliament can pass laws that future Parliaments cannot change. Parliamentary sovereignty is the most important part of the UK constitution.

-- Parliament's authority​

 

[ratiocinator]

This is horrifying: Most voters think risk of violence against MPs is 'price worth paying' over Brexit

 

[Estro Felino]

No, the government isn't sovereign, Parliament is sovereign.

Parliamentary sovereignty is a principle of the UK constitution. It makes Parliament the supreme legal authority in the UK, which can create or end any law. Generally, the courts cannot overrule its legislation and no Parliament can pass laws that future Parliaments cannot change. Parliamentary sovereignty is the most important part of the UK constitution.

-- Parliament's authority​

No...you are wrong...the Government has the executive power...whereas the Parliament the legislative power..
Which implies the Government is supposed to put the referendum results into action through decrees.
But as far as I know...you guys have no written Constitution...so it is confusing...

 

[Altfish]

This is horrifying: Most voters think risk of violence against MPs is 'price worth paying' over Brexit

I'd love to know more about that poll.
I read it yesterday and couldn't believe it, after Jo Cox have we learnt no lessons. This is why talk by politicians of 'surrender', 'traitors' and ''war' is so dangerous, it emboldens the lunatic fringes of both sides.