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whats your beef with brexit?

Notanumber

A Free Man
Just saw this in another thread:
Brexit has cost Britain 500 million pounds a week, study says | Reuters

Your view would be appreciated.

Nothing would surprise me anymore. I mean what do you expect when you have a bunch of incompetent Remainers producing a plan that no one supports and refusing to listen to common sense. Instead of listening to common sense, they are now trying to blackmail us with the threat that if we do not accept Chequers we will suffer the catastrophic effects of a Momentum dominated Labour Government.


It is all an expensive sham and a whitewash to deceive the people and deny them their democratic right.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Nothing would surprise me anymore. I mean what do you expect when you have a bunch of incompetent Remainers ......
Foreign Secretary - Boris Johnson
EU Secretary (or whatever his title was) - David Davis

The two key positions held by Brexiteers who were incompetent and din't have a plan between them

They have sold the UK a dud and the chickens are now coming home to roost.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
So as Italy posts a budget thats sent twitchy bum time within the EU the stage is set for the logical course for Italy and for Spain.

Own currency would solve most of Italy's problems-League lawmaker | Reuters

Oct 2 (Reuters) - Italy would enjoy more favourable economic conditions outside of the euro zone, the economic head of the ruling League party said on Tuesday.

"I'm truly convinced that Italy would solve most of its problems if it had its own currency," Claudio Borghi said in a radio interview.

Borghi is a eurosceptic economist and chairs the budget committee of the lower house of parliament. (Reporting by Giselda Vagnoni, editing by Valentina Za)
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
I love it when Brexiteers tell us how utterly spineless Corbyn would be in government in one breath but remind us he's not electable anyway with the next so in reality they've got nothing to worry about.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Brexit is bad enough but he and Labour would kill us off so I hope people have more sense that to vote him in.
What ever Government Corbyn were to form it would be infinitely better than what we have now. In my 60+ years on this earth I have never known a worse Government, they even beat Brown hands down.
The only possible worse scenario would be if the Tories were stupid enough to ditch May and impose Johnson on us. Now that would be bad.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
What ever Government Corbyn were to form it would be infinitely better than what we have now. In my 60+ years on this earth I have never known a worse Government, they even beat Brown hands down.
The only possible worse scenario would be if the Tories were stupid enough to ditch May and impose Johnson on us. Now that would be bad.

I don't think he is a good leader,he is the darling of the far left though, and doom for us.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
I don't think he is a good leader,he is the darling of the far left though, and doom for us.
Oh, I totally agree, Corbyn is NOT good...but he is up against total muppets at the moment, so they make him look good.
With a decent leader, Labour should be 20 points ahead in the polls; they are currently 2 points ahead.

I have less fear about Corbyn than I do of Johnson and his funders/cronies
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Oh, I totally agree, Corbyn is NOT good...but he is up against total muppets at the moment, so they make him look good.
With a decent leader, Labour should be 20 points ahead in the polls; they are currently 2 points ahead.

I have less fear about Corbyn than I do of Johnson and his funders/cronies

Let's face it,there's not much to choose from, I doubt Boris will lead, he had his chance.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Let's face it,there's not much to choose from, I doubt Boris will lead, he had his chance.
The Tories will ditch May once Brexit is a done deal, no one else will touch the job until that toxic topic is out of the way. They can all then blame May for it all going wrong (oh and the Remainers because...?)
If the Tories have any sense they will then ignore all the current 'grandees' and elect someone we've probably never heard of. A bit like they did with Cameron.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
So he has no ambition to nationalise everything

Nationalising things like utilities, power generation and public transport is not inherently dangerous. It's worked well for countries like Germany. Better the things we need to keep going as an economy are controlled by us rather than foreign companies who will only think of their profit margins.


and he doesn't admire Venezuela

That's correct. There's no evidence he does. If there were you'd have posted it in that stupid thread you and NAN started a year ago; spending two solid months and thirty six pages of posts baselessly claiming again & again that Corbyn admires Venezuela despite never showing any evidence that he did - all while ignoring the fact the Tories have a much greater track record of supporting terrorists than he does.


,reality check time, he's far more dangerous to us than the EU.

Reality check time: claims you make without providing evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
 
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Altfish

Veteran Member
Nationalising things like utilities, power generation and public transport is not inherently dangerous. It's worked well for countries like Germany. Better the things we need to keep going as an economy are controlled by us rather than foreign companies who will only think of their profit margins.
It is also a fact that foreign nationalised companies run much of our infrastructure; so why (In the spirit of Brexit) can we not have our own nationalised companies running our water, rail, etc.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
It is also a fact that foreign nationalised companies run much of our infrastructure; so why (In the spirit of Brexit) can we not have our own nationalised companies running our water, rail, etc.

Do you really want to buy all the things that rotten woman thatcher sold that are badly needing investment and at a greater price than we sold them.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Brexit is bad enough but he and Labour would kill us off so I hope people have more sense that to vote him in.

Voters exhibited their lack of quality when they voted for brexit. They will display the same level of quality at the next election. The choice will probably be between Bo Jo and corbin.... what a choice...... It is certain disaster either way.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Nationalising things like utilities, power generation and public transport is not inherently dangerous. It's worked well for countries like Germany. Better the things we need to keep going as an economy are controlled by us rather than foreign companies who will only think of their profit margins.

Exactly what's happened since they were sold, profit not investment.


That's correct. There's no evidence he does. If there were you'd have posted it in that stupid thread you and NAN started a year ago; spending two solid months and thirty six pages of posts baselessly claiming again & again that Corbyn admires Venezuela despite never showing any evidence that he did - all while ignoring the fact the Tories have a much greater track record of supporting terrorists than he does.

Its hardly hard to find, you can see it in his own words on YouTube, what a success Venezuela has become huh.


Reality check time: claims you make without providing evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Its there you only have to look.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Voters exhibited their lack of quality when they voted for brexit. They will display the same level of quality at the next election. The choice will probably be between Bo Jo and corbin.... what a choice...... It is certain disaster either way.

That's a bit low Terry, "a lack of quality", let's just hope they make the right choice and keep the looney left at bay.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Nationalising things like utilities, power generation and public transport is not inherently dangerous. It's worked well for countries like Germany. Better the things we need to keep going as an economy are controlled by us rather than foreign companies who will only think of their profit margins.




That's correct. There's no evidence he does. If there were you'd have posted it in that stupid thread you and NAN started a year ago; spending two solid months and thirty six pages of posts baselessly claiming again & again that Corbyn admires Venezuela despite never showing any evidence that he did - all while ignoring the fact the Tories have a much greater track record of supporting terrorists than he does.




Reality check time: claims you make without providing evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...BMAF6BAgJEAo&usg=AOvVaw3zEeDgd2R-8uqgyYnvYP-J
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Do you really want to buy all the things that rotten woman thatcher sold that are badly needing investment and at a greater price than we sold them.
Well the railways automatically come back to the country as Major's 'privatisation' was the franchise system.
I think you could sort the others out almost by starting afresh, most of the companies out there are just 'shippers' they don't make the product they just ship it out and bill for the privilege.
 
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