Maybe, I'd like to see the maths first though.
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whats your beef with brexit?
- Thread starter England my lionheart
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Maybe, I'd like to see the maths first though.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Put it this way: I'd rather £100bn+ was spent on upgrading transport and utilities infrastructure than on upgrading a nuclear deterrent that we simply do not need.
Sounds like comrade Corbyn, let's agree to disagree
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Let's agree that you should only have to pay for Trident and store it in your country if you want it.
I'm happy with that but we are a union not a country.
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
Voters were subjected to a similar bait-and-switch tactic here in Texas.
The lottery was pushed on the premise that 100% of the proceeds would fund schools. Actually, about 27% of the profits goes to schools, which amounted to around 1 billion dollars in 2011. Still sounds nice.....but that does not mean schools get a billion dollar boost. Other funds are taken away and schools are still under funded.
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
Yes, and they continually provide conflicting answers. The surest way to be wrong is to predict the future.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
I fear the loony right rather more than the loony left. As from past experience they do less damage.
True that.
I think the left caused enough, labours leader went to war on a lie.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
True.
And with the full support of the conservatives.
Who ever had been in power at the time would have gone to war.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Indeed they did but they were fully backed by the Tory party
Altfish
Veteran Member
Ooops missed this post
I'll answer this in more depth, I'm out for dinner for my bday, if I look at my phone my daughter will kill me
Altfish
Veteran Member
I can relate to that...although it is usually me telling my daughter or son off.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
I agree so I'll clarify what I meant. If you want Trident or its replacement so badly then only you and other supporters of nuclear weapons should pay for it; and it should be housed in England since that seems to be where most of supporters of Trident and a future replacement live.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
There we go, finally. Thank you. Here's the thing though. When Corbyn made that video the Venezuelan army could not legally shoot protesters. That changed 2 years after that video was uploaded to Youtube.
You're taking a video and attempting to use it to portray Corbyn as supporting a tyranny that murders civilians even though he voiced his support long before they did that.
Now with that out of the way how about you address the fact the Tories who - in addition to supporting Unionist terrorism - currently support the Saudis who not only mass-murder civilians in Yemen but actively arm and fund Islamist terrorist groups like Islamic State.
I disagree about the unionists but I've got no argument about the Saudis and I think that would be better suited to a thread of its own.
Sources?.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Here's something from the Herald. Now I realise the survey is a few years out of date and the sample size is rather small but I've not been able to find anything more recent.
From the link
"The divide in opinion on nuclear weapons on either side of the border is evidenced in a YouGov poll for the Times, where 56% of UK respondents want to replace Trident compared with 42% in Scotland.
Just 25% of UK respondents want it scrapped compared with 48% in Scotland, the poll of 1,656 adults on January 25 and 26 found.
When Scotland's 144 respondents are removed, support for Trident south of the border rises to around three-fifths while support for scrapping it falls further."