whats your beef with brexit?

[Terrywoodenpic]

Hence the saying, “When in Rome, do as the Romans do”.

which simply means "Obey the law of the land" it has nothing to do with race, ethnicity or religion.

 

[Notanumber]

which simply means "Obey the law of the land" it has nothing to do with race, ethnicity or religion.

One country, one set of laws. We do not need to be a dualistic society, which is what the EU and the Left would like to impose upon us.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

One country, one set of laws. We do not need to be a dualistic society, which is what the EU and the Left would like to impose upon us.

Not so. The EU is perfectly happy for countries to have their own local laws on non cross border matters.
Much like the distinction between federal and state laws in the USA.

The difference between Scottish law and English law is even more stark, as it follows an entirely different legal system. Yet both still fit within the EU system without difficulty.

We also sit within the cover of international law and its various treaties and agreements.

The Idea of one unique set of laws for each country, went out the window at least two centuries ago as unworkable, as it always leads to conflict. Trade and international agreements between countries, would be impossible with out some form of international law.

All of this agreements and treaties have been set up and agreed between governments of all colours.
Since WW2 The UK has had a majority of right wing governments who have established a large majority of such agreements for us.

 

[Notanumber]

Not so. The EU is perfectly happy for countries to have their own local laws on non cross border matters.
Much like the distinction between federal and state laws in the USA.

The difference between Scottish law and English law is even more stark, as it follows an entirely different legal system. Yet both still fit within the EU system without difficulty.

We also sit within the cover of international law and its various treaties and agreements.

The Idea of one unique set of laws for each country, went out the window at least two centuries ago as unworkable, as it always leads to conflict. Trade and international agreements between countries, would be impossible with out some form of international law.

All of this agreements and treaties have been set up and agreed between governments of all colours.
Since WW2 The UK has had a majority of right wing governments who have established a large majority of such agreements for us.

I am talking about a dualistic society being imposed upon us.

 

[Shad]

The Idea of one unique set of laws for each country, went out the window at least two centuries ago as unworkable, as it always leads to conflict. Trade and international agreements between countries, would be impossible with out some form of international law.

Nonsense as treaties and trade exists for millennia before international laws.

 

[Estro Felino]

Not so. The EU is perfectly happy for countries to have their own local laws on non cross border matters.
Much like the distinction between federal and state laws in the USA.

The difference between Scottish law and English law is even more stark, as it follows an entirely different legal system. Yet both still fit within the EU system without difficulty.

We also sit within the cover of international law and its various treaties and agreements.

The Idea of one unique set of laws for each country, went out the window at least two centuries ago as unworkable, as it always leads to conflict. Trade and international agreements between countries, would be impossible with out some form of international law.

All of this agreements and treaties have been set up and agreed between governments of all colours.
Since WW2 The UK has had a majority of right wing governments who have established a large majority of such agreements for us.

First of all the EU is nothing but a banking union whose interests and aims are exclusively financial....and not diplomatic or juridic.

The UK entered the EU because back then it was a trade organization, the EEC, whose aims were exclusively commercial.
After Maastricht, all that changed...that's why Farage founded the UKIP, because he had understood that a new Franco-German super-state was stealing our sovereignty.
It was the Germans that enabled Soros to speculate on both the Lira and the Pound on the very same day, gaining 1 billion dollars.

For all these reasons, the British people has said "stop", but we have seen the British PM bowing down to the Bank of England who is doing anything to hinder and delay Brexit.

Our goal as Italian government is to restore, gradually the pre-Maastricht EU...we will support all the countries who like us are victims of this Franco-German dictatorship.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

First of all the EU is nothing but a banking union whose interests and aims are exclusively financial....and not diplomatic or juridic.

The UK entered the EU because back then it was a trade organization, the EEC, whose aims were exclusively commercial.
After Maastricht, all that changed...that's why Farage founded the UKIP, because he had understood that a new Franco-German super-state was stealing our sovereignty.
It was the Germans that enabled Soros to speculate on both the Lira and the Pound on the very same day, gaining 1 billion dollars.

For all these reasons, the British people has said "stop", but we have seen the British PM bowing down to the Bank of England who is doing anything to hinder and delay Brexit.

Our goal as Italian government is to restore, gradually the pre-Maastricht EU...we will support all the countries who like us are victims of this Franco-German dictatorship.

All unjustifiable opinion or Plain not true.

Neither did Farage found UKIP
nor has he any official position with in the party now.


From WIKI

UKIP originated as the Anti-Federalist League, a single-issue Eurosceptic party established in London by the historian Alan Sked in 1991. It was renamed UKIP in 1993 but its growth remained slow. It was largely eclipsed by the Eurosceptic Referendum Party until the latter's 1997 dissolution. In 1997, Sked was ousted by a faction led by Nigel Farage, who became the party's preeminent figure. In 2006, Farage officially became leader and under his direction the party adopted a wider policy platform and capitalised on concerns about rising immigration, in particular among the White British working class. This resulted in significant breakthroughs at the 2013 local elections, 2014 European elections, and 2015 general election. The pressure UKIP exerted on the government is widely regarded as the main reason for the 2016 referendum which led to the decision for the United Kingdom to withdraw from the European Union. Following the referendum, Farage stepped down as UKIP leader, and the party's vote share and membership heavily declined. It subsequently faced several leadership crises......

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I am talking about a dualistic society being imposed upon us.

Dualistic societies are not imposed, and certainly not by the EU. whose intent is to reduce their effect on society.

They are endemic, they are chronic not transitional. However, though they are easily recognised, there is no known strategy to eliminate or reverse them. They are unfortunately as irreversible as stars in space coalescing out of interstellar dust.

Trumps political view of a "Great" America reinforces dualism by enforcing American supremacy over other nations.



Dualism and the Concept of Dual Societies:


Definition and Explanation:


It is the international-structuralist model which highlighted the concept of dual societies. This means that there exist rich nations and poor nations at world level; and a few rich accompanied with a majority of poor people in the developing countries. Thus, dualism is a concept which represents the existence and persistence of increasing divergences between rich and poor both at world level and at country levels.

Read more here..../ Dualism and the Concept of Dual Societies - Definition and Explanation - Components/Elements of Dualism - International and Domestic Dualism - Factors - Economicsconcepts.com

 

[Notanumber]

Dualistic societies are not imposed, and certainly not by the EU. whose intent is to reduce their effect on society.

They are endemic, they are chronic not transitional. However, though they are easily recognised, there is no known strategy to eliminate or reverse them. They are unfortunately as irreversible as stars in space coalescing out of interstellar dust.

Trumps political view of a "Great" America reinforces dualism by enforcing American supremacy over other nations.



Dualism and the Concept of Dual Societies:


Definition and Explanation:


It is the international-structuralist model which highlighted the concept of dual societies. This means that there exist rich nations and poor nations at world level; and a few rich accompanied with a majority of poor people in the developing countries. Thus, dualism is a concept which represents the existence and persistence of increasing divergences between rich and poor both at world level and at country levels.

Read more here..../ Dualism and the Concept of Dual Societies - Definition and Explanation - Components/Elements of Dualism - International and Domestic Dualism - Factors - Economicsconcepts.com

Islam is a dualistic doctrine.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Islam is a dualistic doctrine.

As a statement that needs some explenation and definition to have any meaning in the context of this thread.

 

[Estro Felino]

All unjustifiable opinion or Plain not true.

Neither did Farage found UKIP
nor has he any official position with in the party now.

details.
The shocking thing u are not denying all the rest that I said

 

[Altfish]

First of all the EU is nothing but a banking union whose interests and aims are exclusively financial....and not diplomatic or juridic.

There was a clue in the name as to what it was, we didn't go in blindfolded.
It was called the EEC - European Economic Community

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

details.
The shocking thing u are not denying all the rest that I said

The formation and history of the EU and the motives behind it are extremely well documented.
and need no repeating here.
Why and how the UK joined the proto-organisation are also well recorded, as is our part in the development of the EU to its present form.
At no time were the changes imposed on us, but incorporated our own ideas and input at each stage.

Most of what you said was so biased against the EU, that it bore no resemblance to an accurate history of the development of the EU or truth of the situation today. Anyone, with even half a working brain cell, can see through your propaganda, Right through to the Bannon led extreme right wing agenda behind it.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

There was a clue in the name as to what it was, we didn't go in blindfolded.
It was called the EEC - European Economic Community

Not only did we not go in Blindfolded but we fought very hard against de Gaulle "Non" for many years to be allowed to join.
It was during a period of rampant British inflation and a low point in British world trade and balance of payments, that Ted Heath's government finally negotiated a successful entry.

Since that time Britain's economic health has steadily grown, largely due to our trade and financial services with other EU countries.
Brexit is now threatening that wealth and stability by discarding what is the majority of our free trade with the world. into a pit of tariffs and uncertainty.

 

[Estro Felino]

Macron calls for an European army: British run...this garçon is a lunatic

btw...we finally obtained what we wanted. Trump is super-angry with Macron...we're officially Trump's protegés in Europe

 

[Altfish]

Macron calls for an European army: British run...this guy is a lunatic

No he's not. He's seeing a threat from Russia, China and Trump's USA which we can no longer rely on.

 

[Estro Felino]

No he's not. He's seeing a threat from Russia, China and Trump's USA which we can no longer rely on.

Which means he's against us Italians too.
Since we hope both Trump and Putin help us undo this EU

 

[Altfish]

Which means he's against us Italians too.
Since we hope both Trump and Putin help us undo this EU

That's fine, but at least he's on my side.
I can't believe you trust Putin and Trump. If either said '2+2=4' I would not believe them until I'd checked them.
Trump is even doctoring videos of press conferences, just when you think he's hit rock bottom he finds another low.
Putin is still organising hit squads in foreign lands, great guys both of them.

 

[Notanumber]

Macron calls for an European army: British run...this garçon is a lunatic

btw...we finally obtained what we wanted. Trump is super-angry with Macron...we're officially Trump's protegés in Europe

Nick Clegg was/is a remainer/liar.

The EU might want to control an army but they will be expecting the UK to pay for it.

 

[Altfish]

Nick Clegg was/is a remainer/liar.

The EU might want to control an army but they will be expecting the UK to pay for it.

PROJECT FEAR !!