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When "Inerrant" Really Means "Full Of Errors"

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rational experiences

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Origin sin in a human thought science thesis satanism.

O when mass in space was self consuming before womb vacuum pressurised cooled held form.

Statement taught holy womb space mother of God O one mass planet earth. Owner space holy mother. The place itself space womb.

Earth as mass the product for all science to convert

To convert to use law satanism...nuclear consuming to eat up part of god to own energy.

The teaching science.

Basic and simple.

Human self without sin. All humans animals garden earth and heavens. God was without sin. God did not own body consuming.

Basic teaching.

To transmit Sion. From a machine temple to another temple in a circuit Jeru turning place in circuit with pyramid cooling tower. Water tower pyramid...pressurized facure as they were transmitting nuclear signals through mass.

We live in the heavens are not a pyramid or a temple. They said God was. They were not using God...God was not in fission. They were applying fission as scientists.

Inside machine is reaction.

Transmitting using a machine was using our heavens. Not reactive machines owning reaction held inside of just the machine. Heavens our gases to keep pressure and water on the ground.

To own machine melted minerals to get metal. The same occurred to temple steps proof how they owned gained machine eventually did it to God mass also.

Pyramid today just stone not transmitting as stone body the proof God stone natural was not doing transmitting itself.

Ancients were using machines transmitting through our bio life owned heavens sacrificed attacked our life. Nuclear radiation radio wave.

Why the data studied said conclusive evidence. When temple pyramid model rebuilt and reused life was sacrificed attacked again. Ancient scientist did it before.

Thesis mass presence removed was already gone. Reaction acted cooling stopped reaction. The thesis. Cooling state natural. Mass gone evil. Direct moment satanic even without Satan mass.

What you already were already taught. Evil.
 
danieldemol

danieldemol

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KenS said:
Both...

If one is wanting answers, all you have to do is google and you will see many views... here is one:

"In many languages today there is the equivalent of the English word "acquire." In Russian "priobrel" means acquire - in contrast "buy" in Russian would be kupit. In Azerbaijani language for "buy" we use a word "almaq" which has many meanings like buy, take, gain.

This word acquire in the original Greek does not necessarily mean that someone put down real money on the counter and got something in exchange for it. To make the long story short, the Scriptures show that the Priests bought it, and so Judas gained or acquired it.

Now what was Judas doing on that land?

He was angry with what happened, he understood how he was fooled by the Pharisees, and could not believe his foolishness. It happens to all of us. In the heat of our passions, envy or some other feelings we do something stupid, and then like in the Azeri saying -- let the earth swallow me -- feelings rush in. With that perspective, a very human reaction, Judas wanted to do two things on the land: 1. to kill himself; 2. to also disgrace the place Pharisees gave him, in an attempt to disgrace Pharisees too."

another view:

"In essence, the priests bought the field on behalf of Judas.

This is just like when my mother would give me money to go to the store to buy some groceries; we both bought the groceries - I did the physical act and she did through providing the financial resource (and, back in the day of single income families, so did my Dad in earning the income to begin with)."

If one is bent on taking everything "literally", then one would obviously agree that it is a contradiction. But is everything in the Bible literal? no
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What about Judas hanging himself vs falling headlong in the field and his guts bursting out?
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

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SeekingAllTruth said:
I'm losing your point. God wanted to make specific prophecies to show His power when they were fulfilled BUT He didn't want them completely fulfilled because then that would destroy faith which is more important to Him than fulfilling prophecy?????
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All the prophecies were or will be fulfilled but not in a way that everyone will agree on.
But God does not need everyone as a believer in the Messiah, or even anyone, as God has no needs.
 
Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
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danieldemol said:
What about Judas hanging himself vs falling headlong in the field and his guts bursting out?
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It is believed he hung himself and before he died, the branch he hung himself on broke and fell headlong in the field and his guts burst out.
 
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1213

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SeekingAllTruth said:
Then please answer this one question for me, 1213

And [Judas] cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. —Matthew 27:5

Now [Judas] purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. —Acts 1:18

Did the Pharisees purchase the field per Matthew or did Judas purchase the field per Luke/Acts?
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If we look at the more accurate translation, it says “…this man obtained a field with the reward…” Acts 1:18. Judas didn’t purchase it, because he was dead. And because the money was not priests, they used it for to buy a field for Judas and that way Judas obtained it. No contradiction there.
 
SeekingAllTruth

SeekingAllTruth

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1213 said:
If we look at the more accurate translation, it says “…this man obtained a field with the reward…” Acts 1:18. Judas didn’t purchase it, because he was dead. And because the money was not priests, they used it for to buy a field for Judas and that way Judas obtained it. No contradiction there.
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It's an acceptable apologetic since there are no ancient Greek linguists in here. I don't buy it and neither do millions of others, but.......
 
SeekingAllTruth

SeekingAllTruth

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Trailblazer said:
All the prophecies were or will be fulfilled but not in a way that everyone will agree on.
But God does not need everyone as a believer in the Messiah, or even anyone, as God has no needs.
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Maybe, but the Bible's track record is pretty poor at this point with not a single prophecy fulfilled yet.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

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cOLTER said:
What “theme” are you needing to discredit?
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It is enough to state the four Gospels has nothing to do with the truthful teachings of innocent Jesus s/o Mary and the man-made anonymous gospels are against the teachings of Jesus s/o Mary who was born a Jew and when he naturally died as is said at the old age of 120 he was a prophet/messenger unto the Jew, and he never a Pauline-Christian, no never no, please. Right?

Regards
 
Colt

Colt

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paarsurrey said:
It is enough to state the four Gospels has nothing to do with the truthful teachings of innocent Jesus s/o Mary and the man-made anonymous gospels are against the teachings of Jesus s/o Mary who was born a Jew and when he naturally died as is said at the old age of 120 he was a prophet/messenger unto the Jew, and he never a Pauline-Christian, no never no, please. Right?

Regards
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Where did you get the Gospel that Jesus died of natural causes at 120? Show us YOUR inerrant source?
 
SeekingAllTruth

SeekingAllTruth

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cOLTER said:
What “theme” are you needing to discredit?
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Salvation by grace through faith in Jesus, I presume. Not many people know that Paul didn't even write that. It's from Ephesians

Ephesians 2:8-9

New International Version


8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

Ephesians is pseudepigrapha--which is just a $5 word for "forgery". Think of it--the cornerstone of the Christian faith, this verse--was written by a complete stranger who attached Paul's name to the epistle. This stranger could have been a bum on the street with a penchant for writing religious diatribe for all we know. This is what I mean about the Christian faith being a very dubious house of cards built in an area prone to hurricanes.

The letters to the Ephesians and Colossians, thought to have been written between 80 and 90, were not written by Paul. There is no suggestion of the personal Paul in either of them. The style, the vocabulary, and the rhetoric are different from the authentic Paulines. They were written in Paul’s name after his death probably by scribes loyal to the school that survived him. They are included among the Pauline letters because by the time the church started drawing up lists of literature acceptable for public reading in the third and fourth centuries, Ephesians and Colossians were already a part of the "letters of Paul."

-----Mack, Burton L., Who Wrote The New Testament, 1995 Page 183
 
Colt

Colt

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SeekingAllTruth said:
Salvation by grace through faith in Jesus, I presume. Not many people know that Paul didn't even write that. It's from Ephesians

Ephesians 2:8-9

New International Version


8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

Ephesians is pseudepigrapha--which is just a $5 word for "forgery". Think of it--the cornerstone of the Christian faith, this verse--was written by a complete stranger who attached Paul's name to the epistle. This stranger could have been a bum on the street with a penchant for writing religious diatribe for all we know. This is what I mean about the Christian faith being a very dubious house of cards built in an area prone to hurricanes.

The letters to the Ephesians and Colossians, thought to have been written between 80 and 90, were not written by Paul. There is no suggestion of the personal Paul in either of them. The style, the vocabulary, and the rhetoric are different from the authentic Paulines. They were written in Paul’s name after his death probably by scribes loyal to the school that survived him. They are included among the Pauline letters because by the time the church started drawing up lists of literature acceptable for public reading in the third and fourth centuries, Ephesians and Colossians were already a part of the "letters of Paul."

-----Mack, Burton L., Who Wrote The New Testament, 1995 Page 183
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I think he is talking about discrediting the divinity of Christ and the resurrection and ascension.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

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SeekingAllTruth said:
The only way to discredit them is to point out there's no recorded history of them.
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Role of eyewitnesses[edit]
The majority of New Testament scholars agree that the Gospels do not contain eyewitness accounts;[53] instead, the four were written in and for various Christian communities for the purpose of proclamation, and as a result they present the theologies of their communities rather than the testimony of eyewitnesses.[54]
Historical reliability of the Gospels - Wikipedia

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