When will science discover the whole universe ?

[psychoslice]

After all, You are my brother, Psychoslice. Aren't you ?

Yes I am.

 

[Parsimony]

It means its an childish act to deny the possibility of God existence until science discover the whole universe, is it ?

Whoever said that I denied the possibility of God's existence?

 

[chinu]

Whoever said that I denied the possibility of God's existence?

How can you deny until you search every tiny part of this universe ?
Its your un-capability, not God's.

 

[psychoslice]

How can you deny until you search every tiny part of this universe ?
Its your un-capability, not God's.

Hi, when you say discover god, what do you think he will be, or look like, if we did find him ?.

 

[chinu]

Hi, when you say discover god, what do you think he will be, or look like, if we did find him ?.

A bit of salt went down to the sea to ask.. How are you doing friend ?
Now who is there to answer. Because now that bit is the sea itself.

That is the God look like somewhat, imo.

 

[Caladan]

It means its an childish act to deny the possibility of God existence until science discover the whole universe, is it ?

In the same sense that it is childish to deny the possibility of sentient oranges in the neighboring Andromeda galaxy. Or in making the inane analogy you have made above.

 

[psychoslice]

A bit of salt went down to the sea to ask.. How are you doing friend ?
Now who is there to answer. Because now that bit is the sea itself.

That is the God look like somewhat, imo.

This is how I see it also, god is not something or someone, he is all there is, so why even try to find him ?.

 

[chinu]

In the same sense that it is childish to deny the possibility of sentient oranges in the neighboring Andromeda galaxy. Or in making the inane analogy you have made above.

Things are created by something, and of course we also discovered it somewhat, But failed to discover the whole.

Things are created by something, Sounds legitimate to imagine.
But if one want to imagine new thing, of course its a choice, but doesn't sounds legitimate to imagine, or debateable.

There's very big difference between imaginable-things and imagining-things

 

[chinu]

This is how I see it also, god is not something or someone, he is all there is, so why even try to find him ?.

Dear, friend.
This thread is only for those who deny his existence, and need words on hard copy to make the claim

 

[Caladan]

Things are created by something, and of course we also discovered it somewhat, But failed to discover the whole.

Do you mean things like vases or other objects of decoration?

Things are created by something, Sounds legitimate to imagine.
But if one want to imagine new thing, of course its a choice, but doesn't sounds legitimate to imagine, or debateable.

There is nothing legitimate about injecting metaphysical axioms when discussing physical phenomena.

There's very big difference between imaginable-things and imagining-things

The difference can be compared to the distance from the frontal lobe to the temporal lobe.

 

[chinu]

Do you mean things like vases or other objects of decoration?

No, I mean things like Big-Bang etc..

There is nothing legitimate about injecting metaphysical axioms when discussing physical phenomena.

All it depends on what we feel like debating.. imo.

 

[Caladan]

No, I mean things like Big-Bang etc..

So what have we discovered about the big-bang in relation to a theoretical definition of creation behind it?

All it depends on what we feel like debating.. imo.

See, people can feel like debating whatever they want, the question is do such debates display a consistent line of logic.

 

[chinu]

So what have we discovered about the big-bang in relation to a theoretical definition of creation behind it?

So, Isn't the word "Big-Bang" is enough itself to tell that ?

See, people can feel like debating whatever they want, the question is do such debates display a consistent line of logic.

Actually, the point here is that we have not discovered the universe completely, and until we search it completely we cannot say that God doesn't exist.

 

[Caladan]

So, Isn't the word "Big-Bang" is enough itself to tell that ?

Your standards (or lack thereof) for scientific and religious ideas display no content, nor information.

Actually, the point here is that we have not discovered the universe completely, and until we search it completely we cannot say that God doesn't exist.

Of course we can, because searching for something as abstract as a god takes a little more imagination than turning rocks over in Martial landscape. Perhaps NASA should send signals to its rovers on Mars, putting aside the search for water or carbon and start turning rocks in a futile attempt to discover God.
If this is what bothers you, I suggest you to read the Gospel of Thomas, as this has already been covered beautifully 2 millennia ago in the Gnostic literature of my region.

 

[Aupmanyav]

So what have we discovered about the big-bang in relation to a theoretical definition of creation behind it?

We know only from 'inflation' onwards.

Actually, the point here is that we have not discovered the universe completely, and until we search it completely we cannot say that God doesn't exist.

Hiding somewhere?

 

[Ouroboros]

This is how I see it also, god is not something or someone, he is all there is, so why even try to find him ?.

And we're finding him/her/it all the time, everywhere, and we do by extension discover the whole universe in every instance of time. We are the universe discovering itself.

 

[psychoslice]

And we're finding him/her/it all the time, everywhere, and we do by extension discover the whole universe in every instance of time. We are the universe discovering itself.

yea, right on.

 

[Breathe]

And we're finding him/her/it all the time, everywhere, and we do by extension discover the whole universe in every instance of time. We are the universe discovering itself.

Now there's an idea I can fully support.

 

[Amechania]

When will science discover the whole universe ? Possible or Impossible ? what do you think.

The year will be 2918 CE. The person who discovers the last little bit will be named Brenda. Then the end will come.

 

[shawn001]

There is a good restaurant at the end, according to Douglas Adams.