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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Are the dead alive somewhere?
Can the dead interact with the living... or dead?
Is there any hope for the dead... can the dead live again?..................................
According to Jesus the dead are in a sleep-like state - John 11:11-14
Just as a sleeping person does Not interact with anyone, the dead know nothing, nothing but sleep - Ecclesiastes 9:5
Jesus held out the Resurrection Hope for the last day (meaning: Jesus' coming 1,000 year day governing over Earth from Heaven) - John 6:40,44
Acts 24:15 uses the ' future tense ' that there is going to be ( future ) a resurrection.......
Some resurrected to govern with Jesus - Rev. 5:9-10; 20:6.
The majority of people to have a happy-and-healthy physical resurrection back to live life on Earth, everlasting life on Earth.
They will be the humble meek who will inherit the Earth as Jesus promised at Matt. 5:5 from Psalms 37:9-11; 22:26
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Do you mean murder victims, much like how many people were tortured and executed for witchcraft by your fellow Christians? Well that’s how some humans behave in ignorance.


But I’m not sure why you’re asking about them, we all live and die, and some have better luck than others.

Not when Christians are the murderers and the law. This is why secular law offers better justice over theocracies.

I agree, there have been atrocities committed in Christendom. But that’s not Jesus’ fault, is it?

Remember WWJD?
How about WDJD, What Did Jesus Do?

Did Jesus ever kill anyone? Did He encourage others to do so?

No.

Now, did Jesus accept all who claimed to follow him?
Read Matthew 7:21-23, reason on it, and form your own opinion.

Then, you won’t lump everyone claiming to be a Christian, together as one group.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Yes, their bodies are dead and they are not going to rise from their graves and come back to life. They are going to decompose.
Yep, as God told Adam, “You are going to return to the ground….. to dust you will return.”

Is re-creating a person, and giving him or her a new body, too great a task for Jehovah? Reminds me of Genesis 18:14 & Matthew 19:26.

And this is for @Frank Goad : don’t let anyone tell you the Bible contradicts itself. With regard to anything of substance/importance, and death is certainly a subject of substance/importance, there are only seeming contradictions. In this very thread, some *seeming* contradictions have been raised, but they are based on misunderstandings.

Let me ask you this: have you ever slept for two days? Say you took some medicine, like NyQuil…. That stuff will knock you out, man!! - did those two days go fast? You bet they did! When you’re sleeping, time has no bearing. Then you awake; two days seem like 2 seconds!

Well, imagine a condition where you’re in a deep sleep for a thousand years! When you wake up, those thousand years will be like two seconds. To you.

Understanding this, might help you to grasp other Scriptures meaning.

Good night. It’s been a long day.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I definitely believe that your late husband is trying very hard to communicate with you.
I know we have talked about possible reasons why he wants to communicate with me, but I thought of another reason I had not thought of before. It is related to discussions he and I had about life in this world and life in the next world. We had these discussions over and over and over again. Neither one of us liked life in this world but he was looking forward to life in the next world. I was always saying I don't want to live, in this world or in the next world, but his answer was always the same: I have no choice since I am going to the next world after I die whether I want to or not. I knew he was right, yet I was always mad at him for saying that. It is not that I don't believe the promises of Baha'u'llah about how glorious the next world will be, it is that I don't like the unknown and I don't like change. What if I don't like the next world? It is not as if there will be a return ticket.

So maybe he wants to assure me that the next world is as glorious as promised and he knows I will believe him since he is there now!
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Is re-creating a person, and giving him or her a new body, too great a task for Jehovah?
We will all get a new body, but the old body will be buried and return to dust.
Why make this any more complicated than it has to be? It is all right there in the Bible.

1 Corinthians 15 New Living Translation

40 There are also bodies in the heavens and bodies on the earth. The glory of the heavenly bodies is different from the glory of the earthly bodies.

44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

50 What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever.

51 But let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all die, but we will all be transformed!
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
We will all get a new body, but the old body will be buried and return to dust.
Why make this any more complicated than it has to be? It is all right there in the Bible.

1 Corinthians 15 New Living Translation

40 There are also bodies in the heavens and bodies on the earth. The glory of the heavenly bodies is different from the glory of the earthly bodies.

44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

50 What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever.

51 But let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all die, but we will all be transformed!
First of all, I really appreciate you using the Bible, but there’s more to it actually. Yes, those chosen to go to Heaven, which are those who are in the “first” resurrection (Rev.20:6), they need spiritual bodies, since they are chosen to go to Heaven. As Paul said, physical bodies cannot inherit God’s Kingdom which is in Heaven. (You’re right to quote that.) And Paul - all of the Apostles - were chosen for that “first” resurrection group.

(Also keep in mind, that if there is a “first” resurrection, that would imply there is another resurrection that happens later, doesn’t it?)


But is everybody going to Heaven? What about Jesus’ statement, which I quoted before, at Matthew 5:5, where He said the meek “will inherit the Earth”? Jesus was apparently quoting from Psalms 37:11. Vs.29 reinforces that point.

Plus, according to Paul at Acts 24:15, along with the “righteous” even the “unrighteous” will have a resurrection. Their resurrection is one of “judgement”, not on what they did (how the acted) in the past, but rather they’ll be judged on what they do (how they act) after their resurrection to life. To learn & become some of those meek who will ‘reside on Earth forever.’ - Psalm 37:29

The ones in the “first” Resurrection, which includes Paul, Jesus referred to as his “brothers” Matthew 25:40. If you will, please read vss.31-46. You’ll notice 3 different groups mentioned: the sheep, the goats, and the ones whom Jesus calls “My brothers / brethren.” The sheep are not his brothers, because Jesus said they are doing good things to his brothers. They need a reward too, don’t they? Those sheep, are part of ‘the meek who will inherit the Earth.’ (Please read about the sheep “who are not of *this fold*”, [*this fold* being those who are his brothers].. @ John 10:16; also related to this is Luke 12:32, where it mentions a “little flock.” This”little flock” represents his brothers (& sisters)).

I hope this is understandable… if not, the fault is mine; it’s late & I'm tired.

There’s more involved. I’d like to discuss the Scripture you quoted… in fact, you bolded it…1 Corinthians 15:51. The word the NLT translated as death isn’t the Greek word for “death” in this text. It’s the Greek word for “sleep”.
So it should read, “But let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all sleep, but we will all be transformed [in a moment”, as it continues in vs52.]

So the meaning is different… Looking at the context of 1 Corinthians 15, look at vs.23, where we read this resurrection occurs “at his coming / presence”; the English word presence is a better rendering for the Greek word “parousia”.
That’s important.

The Apostle Paul was discussing the “first” resurrection, of which he was involved.

It may sound complicated, but the Resurrections and what they accomplish for those involved in them, is easy to grasp.

Good night.
 
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Trailblazer

Veteran Member
First of all, I really appreciate you using the Bible, but there’s more to it actually. Yes, those chosen to go to Heaven, which are those who are in the “first” resurrection (Rev.20:6), they need spiritual bodies, since they are chosen to go to Heaven. As Paul said, physical bodies cannot inherit God’s Kingdom which is in Heaven. (You’re right to quote that.) And Paul - all of the Apostles - were chosen for that “first” resurrection group.
What Bible verses say that only certain people are chosen to go to Heaven? Where do you think the others will go after they die?
(Also keep in mind, that if there is a “first” resurrection, that would imply there is another resurrection that happens later, doesn’t it?)
What Bible verses say there is a first and second resurrection?
But is everybody going to Heaven? What about Jesus’ statement, which I quoted before, at Matthew 5:5, where He said the meek “will inherit the Earth”? Jesus was apparently quoting from Psalms 37:11. Vs.29 reinforces that point.
Why do you think that 'the meek “will inherit the Earth' means that dead people will rise from their graves and live again on Earth?
I believe that means that 'living people' will live on (inherit) the 'New Earth' after the Kingdom of God is built on Earth, and the generations of people living on Earth from that time on will also inherit the New Earth.
Plus, according to Paul at Acts 24:15, along with the “righteous” even the “unrighteous” will have a resurrection. Their resurrection is one of “judgement”, not on what they did (how the acted) in the past, but rather they’ll be judged on what they do (how they act) after their resurrection to life. To learn & become some of those meek who will ‘reside on Earth forever.’ - Psalm 37:29
I don't know why you believe that dead bodies are going to come back to life. According to my beliefs, resurrection to life means resurrection to spiritual life when Christ returns, not resurrection to physical life.

Psalm 37:29 The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.

I believe that means that righteous people who are living on the land and their progeny will inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
From this Emilie & Raymond Hinchliffe account, not only do we learn how devious & clever these spirits are, but also that they’re interested in us! They watch us, learning weaknesses they can exploit.
That's true. I just read this.
@URAVIP2ME believes in the resurrection of dead bodies from their graves since he believes that is what Acts 24:15 means. He believes that "raise him up at the last day" in John 6:40, 44 means raise up dead bodies from their graves on the last day. He believes that these new physical bodies will live as men and women forever on earth, like he believes was intended for Adam and Eve. That is what JWs have been taught by their church to believe. They have been programmed to believe it like a robot.

Did you see that post? When we read these lies, we know who is behind them.

Stay healthy & cautious: I heard Covid-19 might be making a comeback.
It never went anywhere bro. :D People never stopped catching it, and dying. :(
Thanks. You also.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Just like a foreclosed house "it" does Not move or go anywhere but simply it " returns " to the owner's hands.
Meaning any future life for the house depends on the owner.
So, any future life for the dead now lies in God's safe hands - Acts 24:15
Very fitting illustration. First time I heard that one. Very nice.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
I’m sorry, but right now, I can only be brief. I will answer every question later.

What Bible verses say that only certain people are chosen to go to Heaven? Where do you think the others will go after they die?
Good questions, Trailblazer!

In the Apostle Peter’s letters, whom were they addressed to?
Christians, right? (Of course. He was speaking to Christians. The Jews wouldn’t have accepted any letter from him.)

Read 1 Peter 1:1-3 & 1 Peter 2:9.

I’m sure you can understand how going to Heaven would be a great privilege! And those “chosen” ones have a specific job to do…. They are ‘kings and priests’ with Christ, in that Heavenly Kingdom. Co-rulers with Jesus. - Revelation 1:6; Revelation 5:10; Revelation 20:6.

Paul, in counseling some proud Christians in the Corinthian congregation, also highlighted that future assignment, @ 1 Corinthians 4:8.

Now, what do kings do? Rule over themselves? No, they rule over subjects. (Really, the obedient / meek subjects of God and of Christ.)

Isn't the ruling class always a minority?

Well, the same with God’s Kingdom: the rulers are few, in comparison to the vast majority of subjects, which will be the “meek” ones.

So, to have that wonderful assignment, they are chosen. Not just anybody can be a king and priest!

Imagine a world ruled by Christ, where His co-rulers were imperfect humans in the past, who can relate to the rest of us, since they had the same frailties & faced the same challenges we do! The ‘nations of people will be healed’! - Revelation 22:2
Figurative language, yes; but the results will be real.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I’m sorry, but right now, I can only be brief. I will answer every question later.


Good questions, Trailblazer!

In the Apostle Peter’s letters, whom were they addressed to?
Christians, right? (Of course. He was speaking to Christians. The Jews wouldn’t have accepted any letter from him.)

Read 1 Peter 1:1-3 & 1 Peter 2:9.

I’m sure you can understand how going to Heaven would be a great privilege! And those “chosen” ones have a specific job to do…. They are ‘kings and priests’ with Christ, in that Heavenly Kingdom. Co-rulers with Jesus. - Revelation 1:6; Revelation 5:10; Revelation 20:6.

Paul, in counseling some proud Christians in the Corinthian congregation, also highlighted that future assignment, @ 1 Corinthians 4:8.

Now, what do kings do? Rule over themselves? No, they rule over subjects. (Really, the obedient / meek subjects of God and of Christ.)

Isn't the ruling class always a minority?

Well, the same with God’s Kingdom: the rulers are few, in comparison to the vast majority of subjects, which will be the “meek” ones.

So, to have that wonderful assignment, they are chosen. Not just anybody can be a king and priest!

Imagine a world ruled by Christ, where His co-rulers were imperfect humans in the past, who can relate to the rest of us, since they had the same frailties & faced the same challenges we do! The ‘nations of people will be healed’! - Revelation 22:2
Figurative language, yes; but the results will be real.
All I want to say right now is that you can make the Bible say anything you want it to say. In other words, you can find Bible verses that say what you 'believe' backs up your beliefs, because you have interpreted those verses to 'mean' what you 'believe' supports your beliefs. This process is endless since there are so many verses in the Bible. In short, you can 'believe' anything that you want to believe if you find verses that you 'believe' supports your beliefs when interpreted to suit.

Nowhere does the Bible say what the verses 'mean', so everyone has to determine that for themselves. For example, the Bible does not say that verses that say that the meek will inherit the earth means that dead people who were meek will rise from their graves and live on earth forever. That is only what certain Christians believe, and they believe that because they have selected and interpreted various verses to mean that and created a church doctrine.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
...................Nowhere does the Bible say what the verses 'mean', so everyone has to determine that for themselves. For example, the Bible does not say that verses that say that the meek will inherit the earth means that dead people who were meek will rise from their graves and live on earth forever. That is only what certain Christians believe, and they believe that because they have selected and interpreted various verses to mean that and created a church doctrine.
The Bible is chock full of corresponding cross-reference verses and passages.
This is a reason why Jesus could often preface his statements with the words, " It is written....." ( already written down in the OT )
To me God's purpose for humans is clear at Genesis 1:28 but to be here and care for Earth.
Have children ( reproduce ) unitil Earth is full ( populated but Not over populated )
Thus, to me it should be easy to follow through and see why Jesus instructed for us to want God's Kingdom to come.....
Jesus did Not instruct to be 'taken away' to God's kingdom, nor to be 'taken up' to God's kingdom
But that God's Will, His Purpose, be done right here on Earth as it is being done in Heaven.
In Heaven there is No pollution, No crime, No violence, No war, No sickness and No death in Heaven.
Thus, we are asking God to bring those same heavenly healthy conditions to Earth for us.
What Adam lost for us, Jesus balanced the Scales of Justice for us to undo the damage Adam and Satan caused.
Jesus came so that we can discover (or re-discover) Genesis 1:28 God's earthly purpose for humans.
That is why Jesus promised that humble meek people will inherit the Earth as found at Matt. 5:5 from Psalms 37:9-11; 22:26
This is a reason why we are all invited to pray the invitation to God for Jesus to come ! - Rev. 22:20
Come and bring ' healing ' (Not to Heaven ) but to bring 'healing ' to earth's nations - Rev. 22:2
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Pay careful attention to what he said:
King Solomon, who was known for his God-given wisdom, wrote at Ecclesiastes 12:7 B that one's spirit is a neuter "it" .
No afterlife ( being more alive after death than before death ) for a genderless spirit (it).
Any future life for the dead now lies in God's safe hands via a future resurrection - Acts 24:15; John 6:40,44

@URAVIP2ME believes in the resurrection of dead bodies from their graves since he believes that is what Acts 24:15 means. He believes that "raise him up at the last day" in John 6:40, 44 means raise up dead bodies from their graves on the last day. He believes that these new physical bodies will live as men and women forever on earth, like he believes was intended for Adam and Eve. That is what JWs have been taught by their church to believe. They have been programmed to believe it like a robot. According to their beliefs, nobody goes to heaven except a few select people. No matter that the entire Bible says that Christians go to heaven when they die. The JWs believe they know better than all the other Christians who believe they are going to heaven. These beliefs are based upon a misinterpretation of a few Bible verses that they cling to for dear life.

JWs WANT to live on earth forever, so they completely ignore what they don't WANT to believe that is right in the Bible, where it says that after the physical body dies the soul (which is the spirit) is transformed and continues to exist forever as a spiritual body in the Kingdom of God which is in heaven, not on earth.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

The physical body cannot exist in the Kingdom of God in heaven. That is why it needs to be transformed into a spiritual body.

1 Corinthians 15 New Living Translation

40 There are also bodies in the heavens and bodies on the earth. The glory of the heavenly bodies is different from the glory of the earthly bodies.

44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

50 What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever.

51 But let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all die, but we will all be transformed!
I believe that does not guarantee gender neutrality. It eliminates physical gender but the spirit may still identify as male or female. I know that when I was in Heaven I identified myself as male.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I know we have talked about possible reasons why he wants to communicate with me, but I thought of another reason I had not thought of before. It is related to discussions he and I had about life in this world and life in the next world. We had these discussions over and over and over again. Neither one of us liked life in this world but he was looking forward to life in the next world. I was always saying I don't want to live, in this world or in the next world, but his answer was always the same: I have no choice since I am going to the next world after I die whether I want to or not. I knew he was right, yet I was always mad at him for saying that. It is not that I don't believe the promises of Baha'u'llah about how glorious the next world will be, it is that I don't like the unknown and I don't like change. What if I don't like the next world? It is not as if there will be a return ticket.

So maybe he wants to assure me that the next world is as glorious as promised and he knows I will believe him since he is there now!

Based on our conversations, I think that your late husband is trying to communicate with you in order to reassure you and also to make amends with you. I believe that when a person dies and enters the spiritual realm, they will gain a better perspective on their physical life, which includes all the mistakes they made. In my experience with human spirits, this enlightened realization causes them to feel deep regret and makes them want to correct their mistakes.

The spirits I've spoken to wanted to make amends to those they'd wronged, whether it be their relatives, friends, or someone else they knew. These spirits asked me to apologize to their surviving family members, friends, or other acquaintances on their behalf. I believe that it is the personal responsibility of a psychic medium to bridge the gap between the living and the dead. Furthermore, I believe that a medium enables the deceased to communicate with the living by facilitating dialogue between them. In my experience with earthbound spirits, they have unresolved issues that prevent them from crossing over, which is why they need the assistance of a medium to resolve these issues or, if the issue can't be resolved, to attempt to convince the spirit to cross over.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I believe that I do not have preferred beliefs. I believe what God tells me.

Of course, you believe what you perceive to be God telling you, just as other Protestants, Catholics, Orthodox Christians, and a plethora of other Christians believe what they perceive God telling them, despite the fact that their beliefs contradict each other as well as your beliefs and biblical interpretation.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I believe that does not guarantee gender neutrality. It eliminates physical gender but the spirit may still identify as male or female.
That makes sense, because if a person was a male or a female in this life they will probably remember being a male or female when they cross over to the spiritual world where there is no physical gender.
 

syo

Well-Known Member
Are the dead alive somewhere?
Can the dead interact with the living... or dead?
Is there any hope for the dead... can the dead live again?

Some scriptures I found answers these questions...
Genesis 3:19) In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.”

(Psalm 104:29) When you hide your face, they are disturbed. If you take away their spirit, they die and return to the dust.
(Psalm 146:3, 4) 3 Do not put your trust in princes Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation. 4 His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground; On that very day his thoughts perish.
(Ecclesiastes 3:20) All are going to the same place. They all come from the dust, and they all are returning to the dust.

(Ecclesiastes 9:4-10) 4 There is hope for whoever is among the living, because a live dog is better off than a dead lion. 5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they no longer have any share in what is done under the sun. ... 10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going.

(Ecclesiastes 12:7) Then the dust returns to the earth, just as it was, and the spirit returns to the true God who gave it.

(Isaiah 26:19) “Your dead will live. My corpses will rise up. Awake and shout joyfully, You residents in the dust! For your dew is as the dew of the morning, And the earth will let those powerless in death come to life.

(Hosea 13:14) From the power of the Grave I will redeem them; From death I will recover them. Where are your stings, O Death? Where is your destructiveness, O Grave? Compassion will be concealed from my eyes.

(Mark 12:26) But concerning the dead being raised up, have you not read in the book of Moses, in the account about the thornbush, that God said to him: ‘I am the God of Abraham and God of Isaac and God of Jacob’?

(John 5:28, 29) 28 Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.

(John 11:24, 25) 24 Martha said to him: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” 25 Jesus said to her: “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life;

(Acts 24:15) And I have hope toward God, which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.

(1 Corinthians 15:21) For since death came through a man, resurrection of the dead also comes through a man.

Basically, those scriptures tell us
  • the dead are not alive anywhere... except in God's memory. Luke 20:38
  • the dead cannot communicate with either the living, or the dead. They cannot do anything. They are inactive - in the powerful grip of death.
  • the dead can... will live again, by means of a resurrection, which God promises, and is both willing and able to carry out.

On examining these scriptures, do you agree this is what we find?
I haven't studied the scriptures.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
All I want to say right now is that you can make the Bible say anything you want it to say. In other words, you can find Bible verses that say what you 'believe' backs up your beliefs, because you have interpreted those verses to 'mean' what you 'believe' supports your beliefs. This process is endless since there are so many verses in the Bible. In short, you can 'believe' anything that you want to believe if you find verses that you 'believe' supports your beliefs when interpreted to suit.

Nowhere does the Bible say what the verses 'mean', so everyone has to determine that for themselves. For example, the Bible does not say that verses that say that the meek will inherit the earth means that dead people who were meek will rise from their graves and live on earth forever. That is only what certain Christians believe, and they believe that because they have selected and interpreted various verses to mean that and created a church doctrine.

I can't emphasize enough how inaccurate and misleading I believe the Bible's teachings about the afterlife are. I know that you don't necessarily agree with me on this, but that is alright because I respect your beliefs. What I know from experience is that I've met a lot of confused earthbound spirits who either believed that they should have gone to heaven immediately after their deaths (scriptural reference: Luke 23:43; 2 Corinthians 5:8) or that they should be sleeping in their graves while they wait for Jesus to resurrect them someday (scriptural reference: Daniel 12:2; 1 Thessalonians 4:13–17). I outlined more scriptures describing the afterlife in a couple of my previous posts in this thread (posts #66 and #82). My point is that I believe these differing scriptures can cause Christians to believe incorrectly about the afterlife, and these beliefs can hinder them from crossing over. The most frequently asked questions that I've been asked by these spirits are, "Where is God?" "Where is Jesus?" and "Why am I not in heaven yet?" To be honest, some of the saddest encounters I've had with these earthbound spirits are the ones who woefully linger in church buildings, whether the building is currently occupied or was abandoned.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
All I want to say right now is that you can make the Bible say anything you want it to say. In other words, you can find Bible verses that say what you 'believe' backs up your beliefs, because you have interpreted those verses to 'mean' what you 'believe' supports your beliefs.
Many times, yes. But inaccurate interpretations, ie., faulty understanding, of a particular verse will eventually be found to contradict numerous other Scriptures.

The Bible is actually pretty clear, maybe not with certain verses, but with the topics it discusses.

For instance, the Bible says the ‘soul dies’. Ezekiel 18:4, et.al.

But it never says the soul is immortal.

People are taught that, but the Bible doesn’t say that.

More, later. Goodnight
 
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