Where are Trump's financial data and tax returns?

[Shadow Wolf]

What would you glean from a K1, 1098, 1099, Schedule E, etc about his typical day?

How would I know? I've only looked into the finer tunings of the tax laws as they pertain to me. I probably know more than the average person, but it seems folly to ask me, who said it would have to be someone of a certain background to examine it.

 

[Revoltingest]

How would I know? I've only looked into the finer tunings of the tax laws as they pertain to me. I probably know more than the average person, but it seems folly to ask me, who said it would have to be someone of a certain background to examine it.

You might be surprised then how little info about Trump's dealings, partners, net worth,
etc you'd get from a tax return. You'd get an income picture, & that's about it.
And you'd fall asleep from tedium before you ever plowed thru the whole thing.
This is why the tradition of divulging returns began.....to give the false appearance
of financial disclosure. No wonder it started with Nixon (Hillary's role model).

 

[Sonofason]

It's already very doubtful he has 10 billion dollars, and even less likely he's worth his claim of "in excess of 10 billion." A lot of certified/verified billionaires don't even think Trump himself is a billionaire. He insisted Obama show his birth certificate....why should we not put equal pressure on Trump to show his tax record and back up his claims. Or could it be that he is afraid of the world finding out those speculating he is in debt are correct?

He is under no legal obligation to show you his tax returns. But he will show you them just as he said he would, because unlike Hillary Clinton, Trump has integrity.

 

[Sonofason]

It's a nightmare!

You're right. Hillary Clinton winning the Presidency will indeed be a nightmare.

 

[fantome profane]

Trump has integrity.

I see no evidence of that.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Please wake up...you're dreaming.

I don't think Congress will turn Democrat, but the GOP will implode on itself. And it needs to, because the longer it waits the uglier it's going to be when it finally does happen. Since Reagan they've been moving further and further right, and it looked like it would happen over the Tea Party, but it didn't happen then and now there is Trump. They really just need to chill out, take a couple elections off, rework, relabel, and rebrand themselves, and come back when they're ready to join a Secular Age of Information.

 

[Sonofason]

I see no evidence of that.

Perhaps you should take a moment to get to know the man outside the lens of the liberal media that desires to crush him.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And you'd fall asleep from tedium before you ever plowed thru the whole thing.

I wouldn't be able to find anything because I don't know what all the stuff means. Those who know those things, and statistics about things related them, they could figure things out. And despite people often saying they get stuff from just a few numbers, they pull out tons of information. Numbers can be a formidable tool in the hands of the "uber-geek."

But he will show you them

I doubt it.

Trump has integrity.

Integrity is not getting into a flame war at 4 in the morning and telling people to watch a non-existent sex tape. That's some high school juvenile drama queen crap, not integrity.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Perhaps you should take a moment to get to know the man outside the lens of the liberal media that desires to crush him.

Anything with Alex Jones attached to it makes me want to go do the opposite.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Perhaps you should take a moment to get to know the man outside the lens of the liberal media that desires to crush him.

You do realize conservative sources are ripping him pretty hard as well?

 

[Sonofason]

I don't think Congress will turn Democrat, but the GOP will implode on itself. And it needs to, because the longer it waits the uglier it's going to be when it finally does happen. Since Reagan they've been moving further and further right, and it looked like it would happen over the Tea Party, but it didn't happen then and now there is Trump. They really just need to chill out, take a couple elections off, rework, relabel, and rebrand themselves, and come back when they're ready to join a Secular Age of Information.

For you folks it's all about the LGBTQ agenda. There is a whole lot more at stake here than your sexual identity.

 

[Sonofason]

Anything with Alex Jones attached to it makes me want to go do the opposite.

So you are closed minded. I understand.

 

[Sonofason]

You do realize conservative sources are ripping him pretty hard as well?

It's hard to stand up for someone when you believe the lies that are told about him.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

For you folks it's all about the LGBTQ agenda. There is a whole lot more at stake here than your sexual identity.

Apparently you've not seen any of my rants about the Supreme Court, and why Hillary must be elected, because there is so much at stake.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So you are closed minded. I understand.

It's not being closed minded, it's being able to spot a conspiracy theorist nut when I see one.

 

[Sonofason]

It's not being closed minded, it's being able to spot a conspiracy theorist nut when I see one.

I see. I didn't realize that you were an expert on conspiracy theories and their conspirators. Please forgive me.

 

[Acim]

I get that but releasing taxes became a tradition because of Nixon. In that Americans deserve to know if their president is "a crook".

Again, I think respect for privacy plausibly outweighs that. Yet, if going with what you are saying as if it is not outweighed, then Americans deserve to know if Wikileaks is providing insight into candidate Clinton as a crook. And that (alleged) espionage is worth the price of admission.

 

[Underhill]

Since it's already the Separated States of America, it probably would be best to just relocate the left to their respected party and relocate the right to theirs and divide the country in half and it's power. It's what we're heading towards. There is nothing united about it and this red blue, left right crap is all garbage, only 50% live happily ever after is garbage. One can have their utopian society and the other can have theirs. Each has their own president and senate and congress.

The left can have the side of Mexico and all of the illegal immigrants, LGBT's. The right can have the religious bigots. Most live happily ever after.

One nation under Evil, the Separated States of America.

That has to be among the most pathetic post I've ever read on these forums.

 

[Lighthouse]

That has to be among the most pathetic post I've ever read on these forums.

I agree

 

[Callisto]

Sorry...

You or anyone here suggesting that he is a bad business person is just plain mistaken.

According to bona fide billionaires from Warren Buffet to Mark Cuban, it's unlikely his wealth is anywhere near what he claims - depending on what day and what claims, which Trump himself has said depends on his mood atm. He's a crappy businessman who's only good at taking other's money to spend and lose, then defaulting on what he owns.

Note in this article,

In 2004, Timothy O'Brien published TrumpNation. In the course of researching that book, "individuals who worked with Trump and a had a good sense of his finances" thought Trump's net worth was "$150 to $250 million." Trump later sued O'Brien for damages for saying he was worth so little. The suit was later dismissed.

2. During the litigation of that lawsuit, O'Brien and his lawyers were able to review a 2005 Deutsche Bank assessment of Trump's wealth which placed his net worth at approximately $788 million. Deutsche Bank should know. While most big banks have shunned Trump because of his multiple business failures, Deutsche Bank has been Trump's go-to bank for almost 20 years.

3. In financial filings, particularly with the FEC, Trump routinely overstates his income by reporting business revenue as income or conflating the two numbers. The difference between revenue and income is obvious to anyone who has run a business as small as a lemonade stand.

and

6. During the research for O'Brien's book he received estimates of Trump's wealth ranging from $250m to $788m. Trump himself originally told O'Brien he was worth between $4b and $5b before dramatically revising down his estimate to $1.7 billion the same day.