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InChrist

Free4ever
Is an absolute contradiction between Judaism and Christianity .
Jesus is a traitor that should be destroyed in Judaism to this very day .
Either Jewish or christian have it wrong
Not a contradiction, Jesus is the fulfillment of the words of the prophets of Israel moved by God to foretell of the Messiah/Savior.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
No, not because it says so. Because the scriptures prove themselves through fulfilled prophecy and accurately addressing the human condition.

Could you elaborate on these apparent prophecies that have been fulfilled?
Also, what do you mean by "accurately addressing the human condition"?
Thirdly, why do you believe that 99.99% of all other religions don't meet this criteria?
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
Not a contradiction, Jesus is the fulfillment of the words of the prophets of Israel moved by God to foretell of the Messiah/Savior.
You would be stoned for such blasphemy in Judaism he fulfill no prophecy , the parent religion deny your claim
Your an idolater and I also as a christian ,
Is the law
Yehwah is his name and he not got a son called Jesus .
You preach our death no salvation
Judaism rule this world , financially outright.
You should reconsider is a dangerous game you preach , without the Jewish everything stops even your TV .
 

InChrist

Free4ever
I noticed how a lot of this Oneness in love reminds me of Advaita Hinduism. I believe we are all one in the father in love and we will realize that fact someday (but it might take more lifetimes to get there).
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. I just don't think people in the world are Oneness in love at this time as demonstrated by all the hatred, selfishness, and violence which is prevalent now and has been throughout history. As far as taking more than one lifetime, I find that to be a very depressing, hopeless philosophy and accept the revelation of the biblical scriptures which state that ...
it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment: Hebrews 9:27
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Could you elaborate on these apparent prophecies that have been fulfilled?
Also, what do you mean by "accurately addressing the human condition"?
Thirdly, why do you believe that 99.99% of all other religions don't meet this criteria?
I will not elaborate on fulfilled prophecy because that is an entirely different topic which could and probably has been a thread in itself. Besides, I think it has much more meaning for a person to look into this subject themselves and see the amazing way the Bible contains prophetic information which has been fulfilled later in history, rather than have me tell you.
I think the Bible accurately addresses the human condition because it does not hide the raw sinful reality of human nature, even of those who are main characters in the biblical accounts and the need of God to save us. The writings of other religions either don't address this in any realistic way or come across with instructions on "how to" fix oneself. No other religious writings contain prophetic information and fulfillment as the Bible does.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
You would be stoned for such blasphemy in Judaism he fulfill no prophecy , the parent religion deny your claim
Your an idolater and I also as a christian ,
Is the law
Yehwah is his name and he not got a son called Jesus .
You preach our death no salvation
Judaism rule this world , financially outright.
You should reconsider is a dangerous game you preach , without the Jewish everything stops even your TV .

I don't believe it is accurate to say Judaism rules the world, but the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob has used Israel powerfully in this world. I am extremely thankful for the nation of Israel and the Jewish people. I think God has blessed the world immensely through the innovation of the Israeli people. More importantly, I think God has blessed the world spiritually through the coming of the Savior, Jesus Christ who was Jewish, the Son of David, and prophesied to come by the prophets of God to offer escape from death and new, eternal life.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
I don't believe it is accurate to say Judaism rules the world, but the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob has used Israel powerfully in this world. I am extremely thankful for the nation of Israel and the Jewish people. I think God has blessed the world immensely through the innovation of the Israeli people. More importantly, I think God has blessed the world spiritually through the coming of the Savior, Jesus Christ who was Jewish, the Son of David, and prophesied to come by the prophets of God to offer escape from death and new, eternal life.
You insult them by even saying this , Jesus a criminal gosh dewd , you insult by even implying
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
Nonsense. The vast majority of large banks today are corporate, thus any investor can buy into them, including you.
I don't mind , they tame the monarchs , Mr Rothschild is a lord in my country , I'm not daft .
Is only Judaism can fix this world imho
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I see that according to the biblical scriptures, all people were created for the purpose of being in a relationship of love, unity, and oneness with God the Creator forever. I believe the the eternal relationship of perfect love shared between Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is something which God desires to include all His created human beings into. Jesus prayed for this unity and oneness for His disciples ...

If you love Me, keep My commandments. And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever he Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you. A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also. At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.(John 14:19-20).

From my reading and understanding, this oneness with God is the only thing which can truly meet the innermost need of a person and give someone significance and peace now and forever, because again, that is the sole purpose for human creation... to be eternally included within the Love of God.
The biblical message also shows that sin harms and breaks this relationship. Satan, the initiator of sin, who hates God and humanity seems intent on doing all he can, using any method he can to prevent, disrupt, or destroy such relationships of love and unity between created and Creator.
The scriptures reveal that sin brings death and separation from God forever. Satan and the demons will be separated forever. So eternity may be spent in loving relationship with God the only Source of life, love, light and joy or separated in lonely darkness, misery, and rebellion. I see only two eternal options.
Where do you plan on going?
you are describing a situation of lines drawn.....

I picture that situation pending....up close and personal....

I stand from my flesh and the angelic will be there....two before me.....one behind me...

If I stand well enough the Two before me will ask me to follow.
if not they will draw sword and a line in the dust.....they will move away without me

then that one behind me...will laugh

do you see the pending situation in a different scenario?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I see only two eternal options.
Where do you plan on going?
Fortunately, I am not hamstrung by an addiction to scriptural sources and so my options are considerably different from what you see available. I'll be going wherever my interests take me and have a great time doing so. I'll pop back ever few millenniums to see if you have grown bored with your choices. :)
 

InChrist

Free4ever
you are describing a situation of lines drawn.....

I picture that situation pending....up close and personal....

I stand from my flesh and the angelic will be there....two before me.....one behind me...

If I stand well enough the Two before me will ask me to follow.
if not they will draw sword and a line in the dust.....they will move away without me

then that one behind me...will laugh

do you see the pending situation in a different scenario?
Not sure what you are saying.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Fortunately, I am not hamstrung by an addiction to scriptural sources and so my options are considerably different from what you see available. I'll be going wherever my interests take me and have a great time doing so. I'll pop back ever few millenniums to see if you have grown bored with your choices. :)
Okay, we'll see.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
To the Ministry of the Interior to get passports for me and my family.
The red tape here is annoying, but its better than reading about some Christian insinuating that everyone should follow his religion...or else.
I hope you have a nice trip wherever you are going, once you get past the red tape.
If you are referring to me as insinuating that everyone should follow my religion I just want you to know I don't believe religion is of any benefit for one's spiritual state or eternal destiny. I think it actually hinders relationship with the living God.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
I hope you have a nice trip wherever you are going, once you get past the red tape.
If you are referring to me as insinuating that everyone should follow my religion I just want you to know I don't believe religion is of any benefit for one's spiritual state or eternal destiny. I think it actually hinders relationship with the living God.
So you don't have a religion, you just have a relationship with jesus christ your lord and savior.
Which is not the religion colloquially referred to as Christianity. Christianity is something else altogether.
And anyone that puts their faith in jesus, even if they don't convert to Christianity, well, they can be true Christians too.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I see that according to the biblical scriptures, all people were created for the purpose of being in a relationship of love, unity, and oneness with God the Creator forever. I believe the the eternal relationship of perfect love shared between Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is something which God desires to include all His created human beings into. Jesus prayed for this unity and oneness for His disciples ...

If you love Me, keep My commandments. And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever he Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you. A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also. At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.(John 14:19-20).

From my reading and understanding, this oneness with God is the only thing which can truly meet the innermost need of a person and give someone significance and peace now and forever, because again, that is the sole purpose for human creation... to be eternally included within the Love of God.
The biblical message also shows that sin harms and breaks this relationship. Satan, the initiator of sin, who hates God and humanity seems intent on doing all he can, using any method he can to prevent, disrupt, or destroy such relationships of love and unity between created and Creator.
The scriptures reveal that sin brings death and separation from God forever. Satan and the demons will be separated forever. So eternity may be spent in loving relationship with God the only Source of life, love, light and joy or separated in lonely darkness, misery, and rebellion. I see only two eternal options.
Where do you plan on going?
Hell, where all the cool people are :p
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Speaking of trips, I'm leaving Thursday evening for a week in Belize and Mexico with my grandson. Eat your hearts out! :p
 
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