Where is Logic in Religion?

[Gabethewiking]

in that man was created in God's image, not that we look like God, but that we have the same qualities of God.

Ah, Like Arrogance, Stupidity, Selfishness, Xenophobia, Racism and not to forget, Horniness.

 

[footprints]

I see, do you have any evidence and basis for this claim other then you "say so"?

And my "instant denial" is because your claim is false, just as if you would say "Evolution is false" I would point out you are wrong.

Gabe you supply the evidence, it is in your posts.

Your instant denial is based on your own perception of beliefs.

 

[footprints]

Ah, Like Arrogance, Stupidity, Selfishness, Xenophobia, Racism and not to forget, Horniness.

Not to forget intelligence, compassion, understanding, reasoning, empathy, logic et al.

 

[Gabethewiking]

Gabe you supply the evidence, it is in your posts.

Your instant denial is based on your own perception of beliefs.

Yes, I realize you are correct, I apologize.

 

[Gabethewiking]

Not to forget intelligence, compassion, understanding, reasoning, empathy, logic et al.

Indeed, but what about the former and.. Logic?????

 

[footprints]

Indeed, but what about the former and.. Logic?????

That is why humans have intelligence, to be able to discern the difference between them, and then through intelligence work out which of the two lists would be better suited to the betterment of mankind. Humans are not so good at reasoning, which the world around us often testifies.

Many know the perceived right thing (providing, love, peace and harmony is what is perceived) they just do not know how to achieve it, and so we stumble along the same as we always have done for the past 6000 years or so, when intelligence really started to take over. The world that we have now, the good, the bad and the downright ugly, is the end product of where human intelligence has led us.

 

[Gabethewiking]

That is why humans have intelligence, to be able to discern the difference between them, and then through intelligence work out which of the two lists would be better suited to the betterment of mankind. Humans are not so good at reasoning, which the world around us often testifies.

Many know the perceived right thing (providing, love, peace and harmony is what is perceived) they just do not know how to achieve it, and so we stumble along the same as we always have done for the past 6000 years or so, when intelligence really started to take over. The world that we have now, the good, the bad and the downright ugly, is the end product of where human intelligence has led us.

How do you define Intelligence?
I find the need to know how you define Intelligence to proceed.

I find the concept of "right and wrong" a bit strange, I get my morals from common sense and what is good for the society as a whole, but the Christian God as shown in the Bible is an Evil person murdering and condone rape and slaughter, That is not a good person and clearly do not know "right from wrong"....

 

[footprints]

How do you define Intelligence?
I find the need to know how you define Intelligence to proceed.

I find this a strange question that you do not know what intelligence is and need a definition. I align my definition of intelligence with that which my education and accumulation of knowledge has given me. Without writing, "War and Peace," which is the size document needed to give this subject credit, I will try to abridge it for you.

Human intelligence is nothing more than the ability to relate and associate to patterns. Intelligence is the ability to retrieve knowledge from the body senses, relate to it, associate it to previous knowledge stored in the brain, then store it away for future reference which may be direct recall, or used in manipulation with other stored knowledge which releates to the same association to create greater knowledge from it.

For most part human knowledge is generated by the intelligence through repetitive patterns. These patterns can come from any or all of our body senses. Humans though are also creatures of emotion. Intelligence can have an emotional impact on it. Emotional impacts outweigh (given higher authority by the intelligence) repetitive patterns, and can be generated in a positive or negative sense. Positive doesn't always equate to better and Negative doesn't always equate to less than better.

I find the concept of "right and wrong" a bit strange, I get my morals from common sense and what is good for the society as a whole, but the Christian God as shown in the Bible is an Evil person murdering and condone rape and slaughter, That is not a good person and clearly do not know "right from wrong"....

Strange or not, right and wrong are a fact of life and derived from human intelligence.

As you relate and associate the Christian God to a figure who condones rape and murder, a vast number of Christians will tell you, you are wrong. They do not relate and associate to God in that manner, they see Jesus being in the image of God. When his enlightenment was complete, Jesus wouldn't have hurt a fly he even forgave those who condemned him and crucified him. Personally I couldn't find a better example of perceived good, no matter how long and hard I looked.

As for common sense, common sense is as perennial as grains of sand on a beach. What you conclude as common sense, another will conclude as stupid, vice versa of course. We live in a justified, perceptional world, only when we align ourselves with base reality, does real common sense come into play.