WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

[3rdAngel]

So guys getting back to the OP... now. Where is the scripture that teaches Gods Sabbath commandment is now abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest in honor of the resurrection of Jesus?

 

[blü 2]

Well the evidence is against you as already shown in posts # 855 linked; post #856 linked and post # 862 linked that you did not address. We can agree to disagree but I do not know what you disagree with in the evidence provided in the three linked post that have been shared with you that are in disagreement with you. Thanks for the chat though.

Take Care.

I found nothing there to address. The point is that Sunday is the Christian sabbath and Saturday is the Jewish Sabbath and it was the Christians who changed things, not the followers of Judaism. Nothing in the Tanakh authorizes a Sunday sabbath. However, as I quoted for you, Paul says it doesn't matter which day you say is the Sabbath.

The other holidays are irrelevant here.

End of story.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Then there is no ten commandments in your ten commandments is there if you have no 4th? You post makes no sense

Sir, you are not comprehending a perfectly reasonable post. While the Torah does refer to the ten statements, in fact the only division we have is the seventeen verses. None of these verses identify where one commandment ends and the next begins. Why you can't comprehend that is beyond me -- clearly you have some sort of problem with your reading skills.

I've asked you twice so far, and now a third time, to provide the verse which IDENTIFIES keeping the sabbath as the fourth commandment. You can't, because it doesn't exist. But you need to acknowledge that you can't do this.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Perhaps it is you that imaging something that is false dear friend. I have posted scripture and to me its not false but is the only standard of with is true and what is not true. Time will tell though who is telling the truth and who is not... sadly though for many at that time it will be too late for all those choose to reject Gods Word and Gods Christ.

Take Care.

Oh, I fully acknowledge that there is a chance I can be wrong. Arrogance is not my problem. I'm simply pointing out that you, as well, may simply be wrong. Can you admit this?

 

[IndigoChild5559]

So guys getting back to the OP... now. Where is the scripture that teaches Gods Sabbath commandment is now abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest in honor of the resurrection of Jesus?

Thank you for calling it the sabbath commandment rather than the fourth commandment.

 

[3rdAngel]

I found nothing there to address. The point is that Sunday is the Christian sabbath and Saturday is the Jewish Sabbath and it was the Christians who changed things, not the followers of Judaism. Nothing in the Tanakh authorizes a Sunday sabbath. However, as I quoted for you, Paul says it doesn't matter which day you say is the Sabbath.

The other holidays are irrelevant here.

End of story.

Well if what you posted above was true you would have no problem answering the OP now would you? Fact is though there is no scripture anywhere in the bible that says Gods Sabbath commandment is now abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest. Just like there is no scripture anywhere in the bible that says Sunday is the Christian Sabbath. As posted earlier there is no scripture from Paul saying that it does not matter what say is the Sabbath so you are making that one one. You were provided evidence from the bible as to what Paul was quoting from on Col. 2:16-17 from the old covenant scripture proving that Col. 2:16 was not a reference to Gods 4th commandment but several other minor annual (not weekly) ceremonial sabbaths connected to the annual Feast days, new moons and meat and drink offerings and the old covenant laws of atonement. This was also agreed to by three independent Greek scholars provided in posts # 855 linked; and post #856 linked. Your response was to simple ignore and not respond to anything provided to you proving your claims here were unfounded. Fact is your simply wrong here friend and have no response.

Take Care.

 

[3rdAngel]

Thank you for calling it the sabbath commandment rather than the fourth commandment.

I did it just for you because it seems like a stumbling block even it is the 4th commandment in order in the Hebrew and and any non-Catholic bible.

 

[3rdAngel]

Oh, I fully acknowledge that there is a chance I can be wrong. Arrogance is not my problem. I'm simply pointing out that you, as well, may simply be wrong. Can you admit this?

Naa. I know I am right 100% and have no doubts.... My faith and trust is in God and His Word and have studied this topic through...

 

[3rdAngel]

Sir, you are not comprehending a perfectly reasonable post. While the Torah does refer to the ten statements, in fact the only division we have is the seventeen verses. None of these verses identify where one commandment ends and the next begins. Why you can't comprehend that is beyond me -- clearly you have some sort of problem with your reading skills.

I've asked you twice so far, and now a third time, to provide the verse which IDENTIFIES keeping the sabbath as the fourth commandment. You can't, because it doesn't exist. But you need to acknowledge that you can't do this.

Oh thank you dear friend but I understood what you were saying perfectly the first time but we will have to agree to disagree about your post being reasonable. Why? Firstly, brother, as posted the first time, in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bible, Gods 4th commandment in order of each commandment is the 4th commandment ? YES/NO? Then why pretend you do not know what I am talking about? Secondly, in the very first post of this OP I made clear in case there was any confusion what commandment I was referring to in this OP which was the Sabbath commandment. So there is really no wiggle room for you here. You are simply just being a distraction to the OP and your posts are not reasonable.

Take Care.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I did it just for you because it seems like a stumbling block even it is the 4th commandment in order in the Hebrew and and any non-Catholic bible.

It's not. You are hopeless. NO version of the Bible, not the original Hebrew, and not any translation, numbers the commandments. I wish you could just admit this. I really don't understand what your difficulty is.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Naa. I know I am right 100% and have no doubts.... My faith and trust is in God and His Word and have studied this topic through...

And that, sir, is a problem called arrogance.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Oh thank you dear friend but I understood what you were saying perfectly the first time but we will have to agree to disagree about your post being reasonable. Why? Firstly, brother, as posted the first time, in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bible, Gods 4th commandment in order of each commandment is the 4th commandment ? YES/NO? Then why pretend you do not know what I am talking about? Secondly, in the very first post of this OP I made clear in case there was any confusion what commandment I was referring to in this OP which was the Sabbath commandment. So there is really no wiggle room for you here. You are simply just being a distraction to the OP and your posts are not reasonable.

Take Care.

No, this is not a case where we can disagree agreeably. You are objectively mistaken by claiming that the Hebrew and Protestant Bibles state that sabbath keeping is the fourth commandment. I've asked you many time to prove your point, by quoting where it says it is the fourth commandment, and you have not. Why not?

 

[3rdAngel]

And that, sir, is a problem called arrogance.

Not at all .... Its not being arrogant to believe what Gods Word says. Its called faith in Gods Word according to the scriptures and that is where Gods salvation is found (see Ephesians 2:8-9 and Romans 10:17 and compare John 3:36). You should try it sometimes then you will have no doubts in what you believe.

 

[3rdAngel]

3rdAngel said: Oh thank you dear friend but I understood what you were saying perfectly the first time but we will have to agree to disagree about your post being reasonable. Why? Firstly, brother, as posted the first time, in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bible, Gods 4th commandment in order of each commandment is the 4th commandment ? YES/NO? Then why pretend you do not know what I am talking about? Secondly, in the very first post of this OP I made clear in case there was any confusion what commandment I was referring to in this OP which was the Sabbath commandment. So there is really no wiggle room for you here. You are simply just being a distraction to the OP and your posts are not reasonable.

Your response here...

No, this is not a case where we can disagree agreeably. You are objectively mistaken by claiming that the Hebrew and Protestant Bibles state that sabbath keeping is the fourth commandment. I've asked you many time to prove your point, by quoting where it says it is the fourth commandment, and you have not. Why not?

Well aren't you the funny one trying to make what you are posting from say something the post you are responding to never did (strawman). My post is not mistaken at all. Lets take it slowly. What do you think my post you are quoting from is saying to you? You did not read it before responding did you.

 

[3rdAngel]

It's not. You are hopeless. NO version of the Bible, not the original Hebrew, and not any translation, numbers the commandments. I wish you could just admit this. I really don't understand what your difficulty is.

Sure it is.. What is the 4th commandment in order of how the 10 commandments are written in the Hebrew and any non-Catholic bibles? Sabbath commandment right? YES/NO. Here let me help you as it sounds like you need to go back to your Jewish leanings as you do not know the order of Gods 10 commandments in the Hebrew or non-Catholic bibles. Anyhow this is all a distraction to the OP as shown already in post # 889. Do you have anything constructive to add to the actual OP? I am guessing not.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Hey guys

Just wondering where is the scripture that says Gods 4th commandment seventh day Sabbath has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest in honor of the resurrection of Jesus?

May God bless you as you seek to know Him through His Word.

How's come your still not doing the sacrificial lamb offering..
What's the reason behind that..

 

[blü 2]

Fact is though there is no scripture anywhere in the bible that says Gods Sabbath commandment is now abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest.

Exactly as I affirmed.

Just like there is no scripture anywhere in the bible that says Sunday is the Christian Sabbath.

As I quoted to you, it's Paul, a follower of Jesus, who gives the okay for sabbaths any day you like. And since all five versions of Jesus in the NT affirm that they're not God, God has not anywhere in the bible contradicted [his] commandment regarding the sabbath.

 

[3rdAngel]

As I quoted to you, it's Paul, a follower of Jesus, who gives the okay for sabbaths any day you like. And since all five versions of Jesus in the NT affirm that they're not God, God has not anywhere in the bible contradicted [his] commandment regarding the sabbath.

Well we are in agreement that there is no scripture anywhere in the bible that says Gods Sabbath commandment is now abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest. As already proven in posts # 855 linked; and post #856 linked also agreed to by three independent Greek Sunday keeping scholars Paul does not give any ok to break Gods Sabbath commandment. All you have done in our discussion brother is repeat yourself here when what you have claimed has already been debunked with evidence provided in the linked posts above that you refuse to respond to. So for that reason we will agree to disagree on your claims here as they are neither supported in scripture or supported by other Greek Scholars that are in disagreement with you.


Take Care.

 

[3rdAngel]

How's come your still not doing the sacrificial lamb offering..
What's the reason behind that..

The shadow laws of atonement are fulfilled in Christ to who they pointed to in the new covenant. God ten commandments are Gods eternal laws that have the same role they always had in both covenants and that is to give us the knowledge of good (moral right doing when obeyed) and evil (moral wrong doing when disobeyed); Sin (moral wrong doing when disobeyed) and righteousness (moral right doing when obeyed). Without them we have no knowledge of what sin is or good and evil... see Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; James 2:10-11 and Psalms 119:172. If you would like some helpful bible studies please feel free to DM me.

Take Care.

 

[blü 2]

Well we are in agreement that there is no scripture anywhere in the bible that says Gods Sabbath commandment is now abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest. As all ready proven in posts # 855 linked; and post #856 linked also agreed to by three independent Greek Sunday keeping scholars Paul does not give any ok to break Gods Sabbath commandment. All you have done in our discussion brother is repeat yourself here when what you have claimed has already been debunked with evidence provided in the linked posts above that you refuse to respond to. So for that reason we will agree to disagree on your claims here as they are neither supported in scripture or supported by other Greek Scholars that are in disagreement with you.


Take Care.

Have a nice day.