WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

[3rdAngel]

I'm being very clear what my point is: The Bible, ANY bible, protestant catholic jewish whatever, whether Hebrew or English translation, does NOT NUMBER TYHE COMMANDMENTS, and so you are basically lying when you say the bible identifies keeping the sabbath as the fourth commandment. I am not going to waver from this topic, despite your continued attempts to switch the subject. I'm still waiting for you to either supply the verse where it identifies sabbath keeping specifically as teh fourth commandment, or to admit that no such verse exists and that you have been misrepresenting what the bible says.

Yes I am being very clear too. As posted earlier, You are making strawman arguments no one is arguing about while not reading what is being posted to you. Again, Who said that the 10 commandments are numbered in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bibles? What is the 4th commandment in order of the 10 commandments. The 10 commandments do have an order though right? What is the 4th commandment in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bibles? Sabbath commandment right? YES/NO. Here let me help you as it sounds like you need to go back to your Jewish leanings as you do not know the order of Gods 10 commandments in the Hebrew or non-Catholic bibles. Anyhow this is all a distraction to the OP as shown already in post # 889. Do you have anything constructive to add to the actual OP? I am guessing not.

 

[3rdAngel]

3rdAngel said: Oh thank you dear friend but I understood what you were saying perfectly the first time but we will have to agree to disagree about your post being reasonable. Why? Firstly, brother, as posted the first time, in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bible, Gods 4th commandment in order of each commandment is the 4th commandment ? YES/NO? Then why pretend you do not know what I am talking about? Secondly, in the very first post of this OP I made clear in case there was any confusion what commandment I was referring to in this OP which was the Sabbath commandment. So there is really no wiggle room for you here. You are simply just being a distraction to the OP and your posts are not reasonable.

Your response here...

You are, every single time you lie and say that the bible identifies sabbath keeping as the fourth commandment.

Well that is not true. Perhaps you should try reading what has been posted to you before responding. What do you think the post you were responding to above was saying? You did not read it did you.

 

[3rdAngel]

Strawman again brother? Who said that the 10 commandments are numbered in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bibles? What is the 4th commandment in order of the 10 commandments. The 10 commandments do have an order though right? What is the 4th commandment in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bibles? Sabbath commandment right? YES/NO. Here let me help you as it sounds like you need to go back to your Jewish leanings as you do not know the order of Gods 10 commandments in the Hebrew or non-Catholic bibles. Anyhow this is all a distraction to the OP as shown already in post # 889. Do you have anything constructive to add to the actual OP? I am guessing not.

Your response here...

NO. The fourth commandment is never identified as such. Either give me the verse where the fourth commandment is explicitly identified, or admit that you have been lying about what the Bible says.

I see then you better take that up with the Jews who are in disagreement with you (see the linked in the post you were quoting from).

 

[3rdAngel]

It was enlarged, IMV. Priests worked on the Sabbath... when was their Sabbath?

Indeed. Jesus says it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath and to do Gods Work - see Matthew 12:1-12.

 

[3rdAngel]

Was Jesus crucified for you sins and my sins (among all others)?

Of course... Jesus died for the sins of all mankind.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

No not at all. As posted earlier I believe and obey what Gods Word says. Believing and obeying what Gods Word says is the very definition of what faith is (Romans 10:17)

We aren't talking about the definition of faith. We are talking about what arrogance and humility are.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Yes I am being very clear too. As posted earlier, You are making strawman arguments no one is arguing about while not reading what is being posted to you. Again, Who said that the 10 commandments are numbered in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bibles? What is the 4th commandment in order of the 10 commandments. The 10 commandments do have an order though right? What is the 4th commandment in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bibles? Sabbath commandment right? YES/NO. Here let me help you as it sounds like you need to go back to your Jewish leanings as you do not know the order of Gods 10 commandments in the Hebrew or non-Catholic bibles. Anyhow this is all a distraction to the OP as shown already in post # 889. Do you have anything constructive to add to the actual OP? I am guessing not.

blah blah blah. I'm not even reading what you write anymore. I'm scanning to see if you quote a verse identifying sabbath keeping as the fourth commandment. I see you still have not.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Your response here...

I see then you better take that up with the Jews who are in disagreement with you (see the linked in the post you were quoting from).

I *am* a Jew, silly boy. Every Jew will confirm that the 17 verses do not number the 10 commandments. The numbering is based SOLELY on tradition. We jews have ours. The catholics have theirs. And you have your Protestant tradition. TRADITION, not the text.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Your response here...

Well that is not true. Perhaps you should try reading what has been posted to you before responding. What do you think the post you were responding to above was saying? You did not read it did you.

Perhpas you should read Exodus 20:1-17. Still waiting for your verse identifying sabbath keeping as the fourth commandment. Where is it?

 

[3rdAngel]

We aren't talking about the definition of faith. We are talking about what arrogance and humility are.

Perhaps you were not.. I was.

 

[3rdAngel]

3rdAngel said: Yes I am being very clear too. As posted earlier, You are making strawman arguments no one is arguing about while not reading what is being posted to you. Again, Who said that the 10 commandments are numbered in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bibles? What is the 4th commandment in order of the 10 commandments. The 10 commandments do have an order though right? What is the 4th commandment in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bibles? Sabbath commandment right? YES/NO. Here let me help you as it sounds like you need to go back to your Jewish leanings as you do not know the order of Gods 10 commandments in the Hebrew or non-Catholic bibles. Anyhow this is all a distraction to the OP as shown already in post # 889. Do you have anything constructive to add to the actual OP? I am guessing not.

Your response here..

blah blah blah. I'm not even reading what you write anymore. I'm scanning to see if you quote a verse identifying sabbath keeping as the fourth commandment. I see you still have not.

Thank you for being honest. Yes I gathered this the first time or you would not have wrote what you did earlier.

 

[3rdAngel]

I *am* a Jew, silly boy. Every Jew will confirm that the 17 verses do not number the 10 commandments. The numbering is based SOLELY on tradition. We jews have ours. The catholics have theirs. And you have your Protestant tradition. TRADITION, not the text.

Perhaps you should start reading the Torah instead.. It seems at least scriptures knows there are ten commandments spoken and written with the finger of God on two tables of stone - Exodus 34:28; Deuteronomy 4:13 and Deuteronomy 10:4. So do some of your Jewish friends here linked.

 

[3rdAngel]

Yes I am being very clear too. As posted earlier, You are making strawman arguments no one is arguing about while not reading what is being posted to you. Again, Who said that the 10 commandments are numbered in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bibles? What is the 4th commandment in order of the 10 commandments. The 10 commandments do have an order though right? What is the 4th commandment in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bibles? Sabbath commandment right? YES/NO. Here let me help you as it sounds like you need to go back to your Jewish leanings as you do not know the order of Gods 10 commandments in the Hebrew or non-Catholic bibles. Anyhow this is all a distraction to the OP as shown already in post # 889. Do you have anything constructive to add to the actual OP? I am guessing not.

Your response here...

Perhpas you should read Exodus 20:1-17. Still waiting for your verse identifying sabbath keeping as the fourth commandment. Where is it?

Try reading what is written to you. Your making arguments no one is making again (strawman)

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Perhaps you were not.. I was.

Oh please. You have a habit of responding to challenges by changing the subject. My remark to you was that if you could not concede there was a possibility your belief that the Bible is the word of God may be mistaken, then you were arrogant. That was the subject. But run away if you like. Everyone is watching.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Perhaps you should start reading the Torah instead.. It seems at least scriptures knows there are ten commandments spoken and written with the finger of God on two tables of stone - Exodus 34:28; Deuteronomy 4:13 and Deuteronomy 10:4. So do some of your Jewish friends

I read the Torah all the Time. And especially, I have studied Duet 20:1-17. YOU need to study that passage, so that you can acknowledge that it doesn't identify which verses are the fourth commandment.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Your response here...

Try reading what is written to you. Your making arguments no one is making again (strawman)

I am not interested in ANYTHING you have to say except one of two things: Either provide me with the verse that idenitifies that sabbath keeping is the fourth commandment, or else concede that such a verse does not exist, and that you depend on your Protestant tradition to say that sabbath keeping is the fourth commandment.

So really, unless you have one of those two things to say, don't bother replying.

 

[3rdAngel]

Oh please. You have a habit of responding to challenges by changing the subject. My remark to you was that if you could not concede there was a possibility your belief that the Bible is the word of God may be mistaken, then you were arrogant. That was the subject. But run away if you like. Everyone is watching.

Well that is not true. You made no challenge. You only admitted and showed you do not read what you were responding to and then tried to make arguments no one was arguing about.

 

[3rdAngel]

3rdAngel said: Perhaps you should start reading the Torah instead.. It seems at least scriptures knows there are ten commandments spoken and written with the finger of God on two tables of stone - Exodus 34:28; Deuteronomy 4:13 and Deuteronomy 10:4. So do some of your Jewish friends

Your response here

I read the Torah all the Time. And especially, I have studied Duet 20:1-17. YOU need to study that passage, so that you can acknowledge that it doesn't identify which verses are the fourth commandment.

I see, but you did not know there was ten commandments.

 

[3rdAngel]

Yes I am being very clear too. As posted earlier, You are making strawman arguments no one is arguing about while not reading what is being posted to you. Again, Who said that the 10 commandments are numbered in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bibles? What is the 4th commandment in order of the 10 commandments. The 10 commandments do have an order though right? What is the 4th commandment in the Hebrew and non-Catholic bibles? Sabbath commandment right? YES/NO. Here let me help you as it sounds like you need to go back to your Jewish leanings as you do not know the order of Gods 10 commandments in the Hebrew or non-Catholic bibles. Anyhow this is all a distraction to the OP as shown already in post # 889. Do you have anything constructive to add to the actual OP? I am guessing not.

Your response here...

I am not interested in ANYTHING you have to say except one of two things: Either provide me with the verse that idenitifies that sabbath keeping is the fourth commandment, or else concede that such a verse does not exist, and that you depend on your Protestant tradition to say that sabbath keeping is the fourth commandment. So really, unless you have one of those two things to say, don't bother replying.

Well that is obvious because if you read what you were responding to you would not respond that way you did seeking to make arguments no one was ever talking about. Let me ask you again; Do you have anything constructive to add to the actual OP? I am guessing not.

 

[Kenny]

Of course... Jesus died for the sins of all mankind.

Then it was our sins that crucified him and not "the Jews". I crucified him with my sins as did you, especially since Jesus basically said no man takes my life, I give it.