WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

[Kenny]

Kenny I have never once said that Jesus did not die for our sins. I think you are missing the point. Our sins did not crucify Jesus, people did. Just like in the old covenant laws for atonement people had to take the life of the sin offering.

Yes... people were used even as Judas was used. Romans and Jews. But, it was still our sins that crucified him for if mankind had not sinned, he wouldn't have to be crucified. So we still crucified him. He was still wounded for your and my transgressions and bruised for your and my iniquities.

We can't let ourselves off the hook and just blame someone else continuing the Adam syndrome.

 

[3rdAngel]

If you aren't going to answer my challenge, please don't bother replying.

Already answered here linked. You are welcome.

 

[3rdAngel]

Yes... people were used even as Judas was used. Romans and Jews. But, it was still our sins that crucified him for if mankind had not sinned, he wouldn't have to be crucified. So we still crucified him. He was still wounded for your and my transgressions and bruised for your and my iniquities.

We can't let ourselves off the hook and just blame someone else continuing the Adam syndrome.

Thanks but I do not think anyone was doing what you are saying here.

Take care.

 

[3rdAngel]

Do you think you are helping your case by lying about me?

Not from the text I can't. Nor can you. I rely on Jewish tradition, not the text. You rely on Protestant tradition, not the text.

I did not lie about you. Your the one claiming you cannot tell the order of Gods 10 commandments right and that there are just 17 scriptures?

 

[metis]

We are in the new covenant not the old covenant if you are not a part of Gods Israel in the new covenant you have no part in Gods new covenant promise see Hebrews 8:10-12 from Jeremiah 31:31-34. God never made a new covenant with gentiles. According to the new covenant scriptures Gods Israel are now all those who have are no longer born in the flesh of the seed of Abraham but are now all those who through faith believe and obey what Gods Word says see Romans 9:6-8; Romans 2:28-28 and Galatians 3:28-29. Gentile believers are nor grafted into Gods Israel through faith see Romans 11:13-26. You do err not knowing scripture.

Sorry, but you should go back and do some serious studying as you repeatedly stick your foot in your mouth and then claim anyone who corrects you of "not knowing scripture". Nor do you seeming accept Jesus' Two Commandments as you keep on telling others that if they don't agree with other teachings you believe in then they're not true Christians. You think you're defending the Gospel, but the reality is that you're not with your highly judgmental posts as that clearly repulses others.

Maybe reread Jesus' Sermon In the Mount as you don't seem to get what Jesus actually says with his Two Commandments.

shalom

 

[metis]

Your response here..

Then we have what the scriptures teach in Matthew, the Roman governor washes his hands of Jesus’ blood while the Jews proclaim, “His blood be on us and on our children!” (Matt 27:25). John’s Gospel portrays Jews as wanting to kill Jesus throughout his ministry (John 5:18, John 7:1, John 8:37). Similar sentiments are found elsewhere, including writings by Paul, who, himself a Jew, had once persecuted Christians (1Thess 2:14-15, Phil 3:5-6). You do err not knowing scripture.

Maybe deal with and carefully listen to an actual Christian theologian and then also a historian who specializes in ancient Roman culture.

shalom

 

[3rdAngel]

3rdAngel said: We are in the new covenant not the old covenant if you are not a part of Gods Israel in the new covenant you have no part in Gods new covenant promise see Hebrews 8:10-12 from Jeremiah 31:31-34. God never made a new covenant with gentiles. According to the new covenant scriptures Gods Israel are now all those who have are no longer born in the flesh of the seed of Abraham but are now all those who through faith believe and obey what Gods Word says see Romans 9:6-8; Romans 2:28-28 and Galatians 3:28-29. Gentile believers are nor grafted into Gods Israel through faith see Romans 11:13-26. You do err not knowing scripture.

Your response here...

Sorry, but you should go back and do some serious studying as you repeatedly stick your foot in your mouth and then claim anyone who corrects you of "not knowing scripture". Nor do you seeming accept Jesus' Two Commandments as you keep on telling others that if they don't agree with other teachings you believe in then they're not true Christians. You think you're defending the Gospel, but the reality is that you're not with your highly judgmental posts as that clearly repulses others.

Maybe reread Jesus' Sermon In the Mount as you don't seem to get what Jesus actually says with his Two Commandments.

shalom

Well none of that is true dear friend. You were provided scripture which is Gods Word not my words disagreeing with your words that are not Gods Word in the post you are quoting from and simply chose to ignore what was posted to you. Your argument therefore is with God not me.

Take Care.

 

[3rdAngel]

Maybe deal with and carefully listen to an actual Christian theologian and then also a historian who specializes in ancient Roman culture.

shalom

Oh you means the ones that cannot agree between themselves as to what is true or what is not true? Or the ones like those who helped to crucify Jesus who did not believe his Word or that He was the Messiah despite the scriptures saying so? - No thanks. I prefer what the bible teaches and asking God for His Spirit to be my guide and teacher (see John 7:17; John 14:26; John 16:13).

Take Care.

 

[metis]

Maybe reread Jesus' Sermon In the Mount as you don't seem to get what Jesus actually says with his Two Commandments.

Well none of that is true dear friend. You were provided scripture which is Gods Word not my words disagreeing with your words that are not Gods Word in the post you are quoting from and simply chose to ignore what was posted to you. Your argument therefore is with God not me.

Well, the Sermon On the Mount and Jesus' Two Commandments are in the Gospel, and yet you accuse me of not accepting "God's Word"?

I'm outta here with this.

 

[3rdAngel]

Well, the Sermon On the Mount and Jesus' Two Commandments are in the Gospel, and yet you accuse me of not accepting "God's Word"?
I'm outta here with this.

You should try reading what Jesus says in Matthew 4:4 dear friend.

Take care.

 

[Muffled]

Sorry, but you should go back and do some serious studying as you repeatedly stick your foot in your mouth and then claim anyone who corrects you of "not knowing scripture". Nor do you seeming accept Jesus' Two Commandments as you keep on telling others that if they don't agree with other teachings you believe in then they're not true Christians. You think you're defending the Gospel, but the reality is that you're not with your highly judgmental posts as that clearly repulses others.

Maybe reread Jesus' Sermon In the Mount as you don't seem to get what Jesus actually says with his Two Commandments.

shalom

I believe I don't see how the two commandments apply.

 

[metis]

I believe I don't see how the two commandments apply.

Per Jesus' teaching that all commandments relate to the Two: love of God and love of "neighbor".

 

[MikeDwight]

Per Jesus' teaching that all commandments relate to the Two: love of God and love of "neighbor".

the first 5 commandmments from Sinai respect God and the 5 commandments after those respect all his followers and Jesus Christ is a "Teacher" and "rabbi", what else?

 

[3rdAngel]

Per Jesus' teaching that all commandments relate to the Two: love of God and love of "neighbor".

Then you should see that the Sabbath commandment is our duty of love to God

 

[Muffled]

Per Jesus' teaching that all commandments relate to the Two: love of God and love of "neighbor".

I believe I am doing both.

 

[Muffled]

Then you should see that the Sabbath commandment is our duty of love to God

I believe Jesus didn't keep the Sabbath the way the Pharisees wanted Him to. Does that mean God doesn't love Himself?

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I believe I am doing both.

If ALL the commandments relate to the two biggies, that would include resting on a seventh day sabbath, eating kosher, etc. Are you saying you keep these laws?

 

[3rdAngel]

I believe Jesus didn't keep the Sabbath the way the Pharisees wanted Him to. Does that mean God doesn't love Himself?

Of course Jesus did not keep the Sabbath like the Pharisees. No one said he did. Jesus taught us how to correctly keep the Sabbath and it is lawful do do good on the Sabbath and he was the Lord and creator of the Sabbath right (see Matthew 12:1-12; Mark 2:27-28).

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Of course Jesus did not keep the Sabbath like the Pharisees. No one said he did. Jesus taught us how to correctly keep the Sabbath and it is lawful do do good on the Sabbath and he was the Lord and creator of the Sabbath right (see Matthew 12:1-12; Mark 2:27-28).

The Pharisees disagreed among themselves how to keep the Sabbath. Many oral traditions were not yet set at this time. The school of Shammai (which ran the sanhedrin during Jesus' ministry) had a much stricter set of traditions than the school of Hillel (which Jesus followed). For example, school of Hillel says it is perfectly okay to heal someone via prayer on the Sabbath.

 

[seekandfind]

Hey guys

Just wondering where is the scripture that says Gods 4th commandment seventh day Sabbath has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest in honor of the resurrection of Jesus?

May God bless you as you seek to know Him through His Word.

The Hebrew scriptures were finished writing several hundred years before Jesus was born. The law for the Sabbath(which were several Sabbaths- not just a weekly one) was directed to the Israelites- who agreed to carry it out. Christians were never under such an agreement. Christians are taught " By means of his (Jesus') flesh he abolished the enmity, the Law of commandments consisting in decrees, in order to make the two groups in union with himself into one new man and to make peace..."- Ephesians 2:15

Also, there is nothing in the Christian Greek scriptures indicating any day of the weak is to be set aside. The only celebration or special day mentioned "Christ's remembrance" which replaced the Passover, as the Passover was about the Christ- the Passover lamb.