Which is better designed, the brain or the computer ?

[FearGod]

I can't Google them unless you at least provide some kind of indication as to which specific prophecies you are referring to. That's all I am asking for. If there are too many to list, maybe just provide me with the one you find to be most convincing. Thanks for your help.

There are many links and articles about the prophecies and the reason that i don't want to present it here is to avoid a useless debate, here is one example and you can find many others if interested.

 

[leibowde84]

There are many links and articles about the prophecies and the reason that i don't want to present it here is to avoid a useless debate, here is one example and you can find many others if interested.

That example was prophecies re: the "last days." Since the "last days" have not yet come, how on earth could this be any kind of proof or evidence. I would love to discuss thiss with you, and am happy to do so in a private chat, if that makes you more comfortable.

 

[FearGod]

That example was prophecies re: the "last days." Since the "last days" have not yet come, how on earth could this be any kind of proof or evidence. I would love to discuss thiss with you, and am happy to do so in a private chat, if that makes you more comfortable.

It seems that you didn't even watch it.

 

[leibowde84]

It seems that you didn't even watch it.

Can't watch videos at work. Can you give me something I can read?

 

[FearGod]

Can't watch videos at work. Can you give me something I can read?

Here is one link and you can find others yourself.

The Signs of Qiyamah (All in One Page)

 

[leibowde84]

Here is one link and you can find others yourself.

The Signs of Qiyamah (All in One Page)

Alright, this one I read, and I could say the same thing that I did before. These are "signs" supposedly warning us of the "end of days." Logically, there will be no way of verifying these "signs" until we the "end of days" is realized ... then it will be too late. Further, these signs are extremely vague, many of which could be said to happen many times and/or continually, so there is nothing difinitive about them. It is easy to convince people that your prophecy is true if you stick to predictions that occur naturally and often.

Just out of curiosity, are there any of these signs that impress you as a clear sign that could not be coincidental?

 

[FearGod]

Alright, this one I read, and I could say the same thing that I did before. These are "signs" supposedly warning us of the "end of days." Logically, there will be no way of verifying these "signs" until we the "end of days" is realized ... then it will be too late. Further, these signs are extremely vague, many of which could be said to happen many times and/or continually, so there is nothing difinitive about them. It is easy to convince people that your prophecy is true if you stick to predictions that occur naturally and often.

Just out of curiosity, are there any of these signs that impress you as a clear sign that could not be coincidental?

Do you think it is easy to guess something as to happen one thousand years later ? and why to guess at first place, if i asked you to tell me what things that may happen after 1000 years, will you be interested.

 

[leibowde84]

Do you think it is easy to guess something as to happen one thousand years later ? and why to guess at first place, if i asked you to tell me what things that may happen after 1000 years, will you be interested.

Let's see ... I could guess on a few:
1. People will still regard Islam with hatred.
2. Palestine will still be at war.
3. The Trustworthy will be seen as untrustworthy.

I'm saying that these are pretty freaking lowsy predictions, as they are constantly true, when they were made, before they were made, and after they were made.

 

[leibowde84]

Do you think it is easy to guess something as to happen one thousand years later ? and why to guess at first place, if i asked you to tell me what things that may happen after 1000 years, will you be interested.

I'm just saying that the predictions aren't impressive at all. They seem like things that could be said about any time in history. If I was going to make predictions, I would do the same thing, as the possibility of being wrong is practically non-existant.

 

[FearGod]

Let's see ... I could guess on a few:
1. People will still regard Islam with hatred.
2. Palestine will still be at war.
3. The Trustworthy will be seen as untrustworthy.

I'm saying that these are pretty freaking lowsy predictions, as they are constantly true, when they were made, before they were made, and after they were made.

You are predicting things that is already happening, but why you need to predict things that have to happen near the last hour.

 

[leibowde84]

You are predicting things that is already happening, but why you need to predict things that have to happen near the last hour.

They were already happening when the Hadith/Quraan was written as well. They have always been happening.

And, in order to prove anything about predictions regarding the "last days" you would need to prove that we are living near the "last days." This has not been proven in the least. We have no reason to believe that the world is coming to an end in our lifetime.

 

[FearGod]

They were already happening when the Hadith/Quraan was written as well. They have always been happening.

And, in order to prove anything about predictions regarding the "last days" you would need to prove that we are living near the "last days." This has not been proven in the least. We have no reason to believe that the world is coming to an end in our lifetime.

Can you predict that the Chinese will be scattered all over the world and near the end of hours they'll become powerful and will conquer china which was taken from them lets say by the Russians.

So i am guessing here, do you think that this have to happen at one point of time?

 

[leibowde84]

Can you predict that the Chinese will be scattered all over the world and near the end of hours they'll become powerful and will conquer china which was taken from them lets say by the Russians.

So i am guessing here, do you think that this have to happen at one point of time.

China is a country, not a religion. Islam is a system of beliefs, so it can be safely assumed that, when it spreads, its adherants will be spread accross the world. And, Islam has never had a home country, per se. It inhabited the Arab world, palestine in particular, but there were many groups there before it even existed, so saying that the Islam home state is taken over is a logical fallacy. Is that what you were referring to, because I did not see a reference to Russia taking over China in the link you provided.

 

[FearGod]

China is a country, not a religion. Islam is a system of beliefs, so it can be safely assumed that, when it spreads, its adherants will be spread accross the world. And, Islam has never had a home country, per se. It inhabited the Arab world, palestine in particular, but there were many groups there before it even existed, so saying that the Islam home state is taken over is a logical fallacy. Is that what you were referring to, because I did not see a reference to Russia taking over China in the link you provided.

You didn't get what i mean.

One of the predictions that is mentioned in the quran that the Jews will be scattered all over the world then God will provide them with the power to conquer Palestine and take it from the Muslims near the end of times.

I just made an example for making a prediction to China or Buddhist, Hindus ...etc

 

[leibowde84]

You didn't get what i mean.

One of the predictions that is mentioned in the quran that the Jews will be scattered all over the world then God will provide them with the power to conquer Palestine and take it from the Muslims near the end of times.

I just made an example for making a prediction to China or Buddhist, Hindus ...etc

But, that prediction didn't come true. The Jews were given Israel in the early 1900s, and the "end of times" did not follow closely. Or am I still confused?

 

[FearGod]

But, that prediction didn't come true. The Jews were given Israel in the early 1900s, and the "end of times" did not follow closely. Or am I still confused?

We're on it, the quran says that the Jews will build a wall moreover it says that fighting won't be face to face but from a distance but Muslims will be able to invade the land and they'll enter to each house showing no mercy towards all the Jews in Palestine.

The Jews recently aren't in peace with the Muslim world because of Palestine and any future war can be expected.

 

[Penumbra]

The brain evolved over time whereas computers are designed by humans and become more powerful over generations.

Currently, the human brain is still orders of magnitude more complex and powerful than any computer, but in a few decades that might no longer be true as computers continue to become more complex and powerful. We take in so much sensory information and then constantly maintain balance, thought, organ function, movement, etc that is currently beyond any computer's capability.

There are already some areas where computers beat the brain. Permanent memory is one of those examples. You can download the entirety of Wikipedia or the entirety of Encyclopedia Britannica on a small fraction of your computer and reference it whenever you want. All countless cumulative posts on RF are stored in a server database. The brain can't come anywhere close to that level of perfect memory.

Similarly, computers have immense focused working memory. Supercomputers can model situations with millions of variables following complex equations, like fluid dynamics or the movements of stars and galaxies, that the human brain can't even begin to keep up with.

So which one ends up being more interesting and powerful depends on the application.

 

[suncowiam]

I can make the following predition.

The earth will perish in about 1.75 billion years. =(

 

[Parsimony]

When a computer assembles itself from odd pieces laying around a workshop then I will believe in evolution.

If you think that's how evolution works then no wonder you don't accept it.