@Madhuri i appreciate your reply, however i did open this thread to specifically challenge two major issues: consciousness and imagination, any information on these two specific subjects is what interests me, i would also argue god cant be infinite because then all it could be defined as is maths as that is the only thing known to be infinite, i.e. mass has its mathematical limit, such as all matter in the universe could be calculated to some sort of number all be extraordinarily large but still not infinite, same can be said about the speed of light or the forces that atoms created when pulled apart, all have mathematical limits, if god is infinite he could be defined as Einstein e=mc2 if you replace the c with todays largest constant, which is more than likely something a computer would create, or maybe something such as a googolplex, either way if you want to define god as infinite then either maths doesn't exists, god doesn't exist, or god in some twisted reality is maths, this answer doesn't stimulate me as im not sure maths could ever explain fully life or how it was life came about, probability plays around in the area of creation but still cant be proven, if you have any concept of what im talking about then we are on the same page.