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Which Scenario, if Either, Would Make You Feel More Threatened or Unsafe?

Which scenario, if either, would make you feel more threatened or unsafe?

  • The second.

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  • Both would equally make me feel threatened or unsafe.

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  • Total voters
    34
  • Poll closed .

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Suppose you are alone or almost alone in a store, on a street, or on public transport, perhaps late at night. You then see two or three people enter the same place, all wearing similar T-shirts.

In the first scenario, their T-shirts bear swastikas, and they have shaved heads and perhaps one or two Nazi tattoos.

In the second scenario, their T-shirts bear the communist symbol of the hammer and sickle or Che Guevara's visage, and perhaps they have one or two tattoos of communist symbols.

Which scenario, if either, would make you feel more threatened or unsafe?
90% of my college friends had sickle and hammer flags and Che Guevera T Shirts.
Just went for a visit a month ago. The current crop remains the same. They were throwing a party for 100 th birth anniversary of Lenin....
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
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90% of my college friends had sickle and hammer flags and Che Guevera T Shirts.
Just went for a visit a month ago. The current crop remains the same. They were throwing a party for 100 th birth anniversary of Lenin....

Was that in India, if you don't mind my asking?

I'm wondering because I have come to believe, based on many indicators, that many people in formerly colonized and/or poorer countries may see communism or at least some communist figures (e.g., Guevara) in a vastly different light than many Western countries generally do, perhaps partially due to the history and lingering effects of the Cold War. Even when disapproving of communism, many people in the former may not see it as especially different or much worse than imperialism, exploitation, etc., carried out by capitalist countries as each relates or related to their immediate lives.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Neither scenario would make me feel unsafe unless they began showing signs of aggression.
Group-speak serving to advertise and normalize Nazi hate is a threat.

Forgive the comment, but your reaction to that threat suggests to me a worrisome and contemptible lack of knowledge, empathy, or both.
 
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SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
Forgive the comment, but your reaction to that threar suggests to me a worrisome and contemptible lack of knowledge, empathy, or both.
You'll forgive me if I don't.

The lack of feeling threatened in no way demonstrates or translates to ignorance or empathy.

If you want to know something about me, ask. I take exception to your posting unfounded assumptions about my intelligence and morals values.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Or a sign that they're racist punk posers thinking they're making some sort of statement.
It's a good idea to consider all possibilities,
rather than leap with certainty to just one.

A friend has the problem of seeing the
worst in many things, & doesn't allow for
alternatives, eg, Democrats want to destroy
the country, Islam is Satanic, liberalism is
the result of covert Soviet operatives.
This is really harming his mental health.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
It's a good idea to consider all possibilities,
rather than leap with certainty to just one.

A friend has the problem of seeing the
worst in many things, & doesn't allow for
alternatives, eg, Democrats want to destroy
the country, Islam is Satanic, liberalism is
the result of covert Soviet operatives.
This is really harming his mental health.

Since I'm visibly not of European ethnicity, as I said earlier, I think hoping for the best but acting cautiously around Nazis due to having lower expectations of them by default would be a perfectly reasonable approach for protecting myself.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
In my experience the nazi wannabes are just thugs looking for a fight. While the commie wannabes are just ignorant ideologues looking for utopia. So I would feel more threatened by the presence of the former then the latter.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Since I'm visibly not of European ethnicity, as I said earlier, I think hoping for the best but acting cautiously around Nazis due to having lower expectations of them by default would be a perfectly reasonable approach for protecting myself.
People imagine that Nazis, white supremacists, etc
are always in predation mode. I find that most
people have an "off" mode for their radical side.
Even they generally need some peace & quiet.

But if Nazis appeared, I'd be less at risk of triggering
them than you might. So my answer was personal,
ie, how I'd feel about them, not how everyone should.
Geography matters too. In SE MI, you'd look ordinary.
In rural Idaho, it would be different.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
People imagine that Nazis, white supremacists, etc
are always in predation mode. I find that most
people have an "off" mode for their radical side.

But if Nazis appeared, I'd be less at risk of triggering
them than you might. So my answer was personal,
ie, how I'd feel about them, not how everyone should.
Geography matters too. In SE MI, you'd look ordinary.
In rural Idaho, it would be different.

Fair enough, since your answer was personal.

I wouldn't count on a Nazi's being in "off" mode when I was encountering them, so I would still be cautious.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
They certainly sound like nutjobs, but this is a uniquely US phenomenon.

So in Europe I'm not afraid of it.
Europe is catching up with USA.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yes. Post #28 just came across to me as more generalized, hence my response.
That post wasn't an answer to the question though.
(I'd answered the question earlier.)
I responded to the other poster's suggestion of possibility.
It's generally good to consider all possibilities.
This could include heightened awareness, considering
escape routes, circumspection, etc.
 
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