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While an apology was issued from NATO, this was completely absurd that it was suggested in the first place.
- Thread starter Twilight Hue
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NATO official admits comments on Ukraine giving up territory to gain membership were a 'mistake'
Story by Jenni Reid •9hStian Jenssen, director of the private office of the NATO secretary-general, was criticized over comments during a panel debate Tuesday.
Jenssen subsequently told Norwegian newspaper VG that his choice of words was a mistake.
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lukethethird
unknown member
The mistake was saying the inevitable out loud and not sticking to the narrative.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'm kinda viewing this as a Freudian slip.
I never thought thought giving up territory would ever be a requirement for NATO membership.
lukethethird
unknown member
Why not? This was an easternmost Ukraine border dispute from the very beginning. Perhaps you were blindsided by western mainstream media and the military industrial complex's continual exploitation of the situation.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Call me old fashioned, but I consider the rape, torture, and murder of Ukrainian civilians - especially children - at the hands of Russian invaders/occupiers to be uncool.
It's not unusual for politicians to use emotionalism for political gains.
Just better if they don't say it out loud.
Most folks don't mind being motivated by emotions but they don't like knowing it's being intentionally done.
It's all about winning...and who the winner is.
That's the US narrative.
It's called quid pro quo.
You cannot demand something for free.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
It's about defending people's land, liberty, lives, and livelihoods from an unprovoked invasion and subsequent war crimes.
Your asinine prattle isn't going to wash the blood of innocents off of Putin's hands. Don't you identify as a Christian? Better drop to your knees immediately and pray profusely for forgiveness.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'm wondering what lands the US and UK gave up?
The US Deep State provoked this war and used the Ukrainian soldiers as human shields against Putin.
So many of them died for the sake of their ambitious project to dethrone Putin.
I am not the one who needs to apologize.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
How did the deep state/freemasons/illuminati/Jews, etc. provoke Putin into invading Ukraine? Ukrainian soldiers are fighting and dying to defend the land, liberty, and lives of their people. Putin's regime has committed horrible crimes against civilians, and you want to brush it under the rug with trashy, braindead conspiracy theories.
Russian troops raped and tortured children in Ukraine, U.N. panel says
The findings by the United Nations experts are the latest allegations of war crimes against Russia since its invasion of Ukraine.
www.nbcnews.com
War crimes in the Russian invasion of Ukraine - Wikipedia
You abide the rape and torture of children because you fetishize despots. Disgusting and disgraceful.
Wait...I thought the official narrative was that the Russians used to rape Ukrainian women and abduct children?
Now it's changed?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
They have, along with countless other crimes. I never said otherwise.
How has it changed? Put the pizza down and try to be coherent.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
European Parliament declares Russia to be a state sponsor of terrorism | News | European Parliament
Following the atrocities carried out by Vladimir Putin’s regime against Ukrainian civilians, MEPs have recognised Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism.
www.europarl.europa.eu
lukethethird
unknown member
Sorry, but I can't get excited by bad, one sided reporting, neither can I get worked up over a border dispute. Warmongering and dehumanizing others has never been my thing.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
By "border dispute", do you mean "protracted efforts BY Russia to infiltrate and control the region through funding and supporting separatist groups before a subsequent military invasion"?
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Father Heathen
Veteran Member
How about getting "worked up" over verified war crimes? And "warmongering"? You're literally an apologist for it by trying to excuse/justify Russia's invasion. As for "one sided reporting", when have you ever offered anything remotely credible or substantiated? You abide child rape, and your POV is trash.