While an apology was issued from NATO, this was completely absurd that it was suggested in the first place.

[Father Heathen]

Died? What about all the children that have literally been kidnapped?

That as well, but you won't see the Putin apologists here acknowledge or address that.

 

[EconGuy]

It's a rebranding of the "Illuminati".

Can we just go back to the Illuminati? I mean, both are dumb ideas in concept, but Illuminati sounds so much cooler.

 

[EconGuy]

That as well, but you won't see the Putin apologists here acknowledge or address that.

Yes, if the mental gymnastics here were an Olympic event, the people here would sweep the podium

 

[EconGuy]

So why is Russia the exception?

 

[lukethethird]

In a just world, Putin, Zelensky, and Biden would be sharing a jail cell because that is where they belong.

 

[lukethethird]

You're against war?! How dare you, Russian shill!

Yes, and I haven't made up my mind as to who is the most bloodthirsty of the three, Putin, Zelensky, or Biden so that too must qualify me as a Russian shill, ha ha, gottaluvit.

 

[blü 2]

LOL...Seriously, "The Deep State®". A nefarious organization of shadowy figures that encapsulate, distill and concentrate all of the far-right fears of government into a single unidentifiable entity with the power to rule the world without every having to say a thing.

Hilarious

Yeah, all of that, but how many times have you had to clean up the yard ─ and the street ─ after a squadron of flying pigs?

 

[Father Heathen]

Yes, and I haven't made up my mind as to who is the most bloodthirsty of the three, Putin, Zelensky, or Biden so that too must qualify me as a Russian shill, ha ha, gottaluvit.

If a woman fought back against a man who was trying to rape her, would that make her "bloodthirsty"? If someone gave her pepper spray to defend herself with, would that make them "bloodthirsty" as well?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I never supported the many US military invasions of countries and their numerous overthrows of other governments either.

Oh? The many US "military invasions"? I don't remember those. Maybe you're referring to the many US "border disputes", as you'd like to call them.

So, how come when America does it it's an "invasion", but when Russia does it it's a "border dispute"?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

In a just world, Putin, Zelensky, and Biden would be sharing a jail cell because that is where they belong.

Because, to you, defending yourself from an invasion, aiding your allies while they're being invaded, and engaging in an actual invasion are ALL equally bad.

That's like saying both the rapist and the rape victim belong in jail, along with the civilian who detained the rapist.

 

[Estro Felino]

I expect Zelensky to settle down in some beautiful Caribbean island...one of those with golden sand, and emerald green palms.
They're also Tax Havens ..so it's perfect.

 

[lukethethird]

If a woman fought back against a man who was trying to rape her, would that make her "bloodthirsty"? If someone gave her pepper spray to defend herself with, would that make them "bloodthirsty" as well?

Sorry, but I don't believe Russian soldiers are any more or any less guilty of rape than any other soldiers of any given nationality, but that's probably because I don't suffer from Russia phobia.

 

[Father Heathen]

Sorry, but I don't believe Russian soldiers are any more or any less guilty of rape than any other soldiers of any given nationality, but that's probably because I don't suffer from Russia phobia.

Oh, for ****s sake... "russia phobia"? ...really? Well how convenient. I suppose anyone who denounced the atrocities committed by Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge were just "Cambodia phobic". What a laughably desperate card to pull.

Russian troops raped and tortured children in Ukraine, U.N. panel says

The findings by the United Nations experts are the latest allegations of war crimes against Russia since its invasion of Ukraine.

www.nbcnews.com

Sexual Violence ‘Most Hidden Crime’ Being Committed against Ukrainians, Civil Society Representative Tells Security Council | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases

Allegations of sexual violence by Russian troops in Ukraine are mounting as the conflict passes its 100-day mark, a senior United Nations official told the Security Council today, voicing regret over a stark discrepancy between that painful reality and the global community’s ambition to end the...

press.un.org

Ukraine conflict: 'Russian soldiers raped me and killed my husband'

The BBC has uncovered first-hand evidence of Russian soldiers raping and killing civilians in a village west of Kyiv.

www.bbc.com

Ukraine: Apparent War Crimes in Russia-Controlled Areas

Human Rights Watch has documented several cases of Russian military forces committing laws-of-war violations against civilians in occupied areas of the Chernihiv, Kharkiv, and Kyiv regions of Ukraine.

www.hrw.org

WATCH: Ukraine top prosecutor says Russian forces are using rape, torture to sow terror

Kostin said more than 60 cases of rape were documented in the Kherson region alone. In areas still controlled by Russian forces, residents, including children, are being forcefully relocated to other occupied territories or to Russia.

www.pbs.org

Exclusive: Ukraine accuses Russian snipers of abusing child, gang raping mother

Ukraine has accused two Russian soldiers of sexually assaulting a four-year-old girl and gang raping her mother at gunpoint in front of her father, as part of widespread allegations of abuse during the more than one-year-long invasion.

www.reuters.com

'They took turns raping me': Ukrainian survivors reveal how Russian soldiers use sex attacks 'as a weapon of war'

On the one-year anniversary of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the Sky News Daily podcast has spoken to brave women who are victims of sexual violence at the hands of Putin's forces.

news.sky.com

 

[Yerda]

The US Deep State provoked this war and used the Ukrainian soldiers as human shields against Putin.

Do you have any reason to believe this? I would accept as little as a piece of coherent commentary.

So many of them died for the sake of their ambitious project to dethrone Putin.

Which country launched an invasion?

 

[lukethethird]

Because, to you, defending yourself from an invasion, aiding your allies while they're being invaded, and engaging in an actual invasion are ALL equally bad.

That's like saying both the rapist and the rape victim belong in jail, along with the civilian who detained the rapist.

Putin fell into a trap, the US and it's Nato lackies has Russia bogged down in a long drawn out proxy war, Ukraine is the pawn in all of this, it is their blood being shed, or as you call it, an ally. Who is advocating for peace talks?

 

[Flankerl]

Ah yes NATO forced Muscovy to attack Ukraine

Funny, I already know what other insane crap you think is real.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Putin fell into a trap,

Please explain to me how, exactly, Putin was "trapped" into invading Ukraine. Please tell me how, exactly, "not invading your neighbour after meddling with them for years" was not an option for Putin.

the US and it's Nato lackies has Russia bogged down in a long drawn out proxy war,

Nope. Russia invaded Ukraine. All they had to do was NOT do that. Neither NATO nor the US had any impact on that decision. Putin made it on his own.

Ukraine is the pawn in all of this, it is their blood being shed, or as you call it, an ally. Who is advocating for peace talks?

Definitely not Russia, who have refused peace talks without being given land.

I find it very telling that you are willing to blame everyone BUT the imperialist aggressor in this instance. It's very telling that you're willing to go to bat for an authoritarian country literally invading its democratic neighbour.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Ah yes NATO forced Muscovy to attack Ukraine

Funny, I already know what other insane crap you think is real.

I'm willing to bet it goes something like this:

"Russia was FORCED to invade Ukraine!"
"Forced how?"
"Because Ukraine was threatening to join NATO!"
"Why would Ukraine want to join NATO?"
"Because then Russia couldn't invade them!"
"So you think Russia were forced to invade a country because that country was potentially going to make it difficult for them to be invaded, and the only compromise that could have been offered is if they were denied protection against Russia's own invasion?"
"Russia was FORCED to invade Ukraine!"

And around and around we go. Imperialists seldom ever get to the core of why they think what they do, because being honest exposes them for what they are.

 

[Brian2]

MSN

It makes me wonder, what is really going on here?

NATO does not want to be at war with Putin on accepting the Ukraine as a member.
Ukraine giving up territory to Russia might create to barrier between NATO and Russia that Russia wants and the war might then stop.
Russia does not want to lose face but wants a barrier, and no doubt Putin would like a way out of the war which secured both those things.

 

[Estro Felino]

Putin fell into a trap, the US and it's Nato lackies has Russia bogged down in a long drawn out proxy war, Ukraine is the pawn in all of this, it is their blood being shed, or as you call it, an ally. Who is advocating for peace talks?

NATO lackeys?
I inform you there are European countries which have been occupied by the US since the end of WW2, so these countries haven't chosen to be "NATO lackeys".

Just for the record.