Whistleblower to IRS: "Mormon Church has amassed $100 billion in tax-empt fund

[robocop (actually)]

Why would he do that when he didn't have a building to worship in? He did worship post much everywhere, afterall, proclaiming god in all places.

Didn't He go into synagogues?

An LDS person can donate to tithing, which is basically simply building up the Church.
Anyone can donate to fast offerings, feeding the hungry.
Anyone can donate to humanitarian aid, and we've done $2 billion.
Anyone can donate to the Book of Mormon fund, to print Books of Mormon in virtually every language.
Anyone can donate to the Missionary Fund, to help with the costs of going on Missions to preach the LDS gospel full time.
I don't remember any more.

 

[robocop (actually)]

YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE WICKED ONES.

I don't think Dan from Smithville is wicked. But I do not cast final judgment of where someone's going after they die on anyone.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Oh yeah,
We have a perpetual education fund. People go to college for very specific skills so that they can be sure to get a job. Then when they've earned the money back, they donate it to the next person to get an education. It's like a revolving door.

 

[Left Coast]

It should develop logically.

LOL. The thought experiment of this thread has been a lot of things. Logical is not one.

For instance, they would want to minimize total harm might be one way to go.

I see, so your previous definitions were not accurate.

I am not the president of my Church so I can't speak to the logistics of the war.

Wait a minute, but the President of your Church can speak to these logistics? Has he?

But I can say that the righteous will fight for righteousness while the wicked will fight for wickedness.

Well that's neatly wrapped in a bow.

Definition of TAUTOLOGY

 

[robocop (actually)]

LOL. The thought experiment of this thread has been a lot of things. Logical is not one.



I see, so your previous definitions were not accurate.



Wait a minute, but the President of your Church can speak to these logistics? Has he?



Well that's neatly wrapped in a bow.

Definition of TAUTOLOGY

It's simple to understand in theory.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

In this war, aren't the righteous going to harm the wicked?

They don't count since they are wicked. Unless they are less than 3/10th wicked and only dabble in wicked. If they are not serious about it, they aren't worth a waste of ammo.

 

[robocop (actually)]

They don't count since they are wicked. Unless they are less than 3/10th wicked and only dabble in wicked. If they are not serious about it, they aren't worth a waste of ammo.

Whereas some people are partly wicked and partly righteous, the Lord helps all those who are not completely filthy to make it to Heaven. Only the completely filthy will not take any help and since the kingdom of God is clean, they cannot dwell with Him in the afterlife.
And speaking of 3/10th wicked, some people will be with God, some people will be visited occasionally by God, and some people will be visited occasionally by angels, but these people will have a better life than earth life.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

This entire thread raises a lot of basic questions that may be related to the OP, but goes beyond the scope of it. Why does God need money? What is wickedness? Who has it and how can you know? Is wickedness just meaning a difference in ideology or doctrine? How can one position be determined to be righteous over another if both are claimed to be righteous in themselves? Are there better ways to spend $100 billion dollars than on guns that would have a righteous impact? I guess we will never know.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

The Latter-day Saints would be looking to encourage humanity to save itself. The people on the other team would not necessarily be unbelievers, but wicked. Wicked means that they attempt to harm each other. That would be their way of life, and if everyone follows it it leads to humanity-destruction.

Would it be wicked for the righteous to expunge the wicked in a preemptive first strike? If they are so easy to target, it makes a lot of sense to do it and it would save righteous lives.

 

[Left Coast]

It's simple to understand in theory.

Sure, when you ask no follow-up questions about it how it actually works.

So, no logistics from the Mormon president, I take it?

 

[robocop (actually)]

This entire thread raises a lot of basic questions that may be related to the OP, but goes beyond the scope of it. Why does God need money? What is wickedness? Who has it and how can you know? Is wickedness just meaning a difference in ideology or doctrine? How can one position be determined to be righteous over another if both are claimed to be righteous in themselves? Are there better ways to spend $100 billion dollars than on guns that would have a righteous impact? I guess we will never know.

OK. God took many things in Old Testament time to build His tabernacle and Abraham paid tithes. It was to set up His government on Earth. This government was not to overthrow man-made governments but was of another world. Wickedness is "the quality of being evil or morally wrong." Evil means, "harmful or tending to harm." By their fruits ye shall know them. Wickedness is a substandard moral. It means that you do harm to others. You can be wicked and believe in God. Priestcraft is when you believe in God and yet deceive others about God to harm them. You can be righteous and yet deceived about God, but if you are righteous, in this life or the next, you're going to realize it and accept it. Who is righteous is for the Lord to decide. Although there will ultimately be a fight, I don't know that there is $100 billion or that it is going to a militia; however the scriptures have warned us about what they would.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Would it be wicked for the righteous to expunge the wicked in a preemptive first strike? If they are so easy to target, it makes a lot of sense to do it and it would save righteous lives.

People are precious things. They can be fought for to be righteous if they are not completely wicked. The wicked will have huge dominion and the "Church of the Lamb" small dominion. I don't think a pre-emptive strike would even be possible.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Sure, when you ask no follow-up questions about it how it actually works.

So, no logistics from the Mormon president, I take it?

Please use the term LDS and yes there have been logistics from Him.

His logistics are that we should take an hour less of Church and study the scriptures 6 days a week to get a profound understanding. We should do it in our families, with friends or individually if we have to. By studying scripture, we will be helping the Church to spread and to make everyone happy on Earth and increase our own worthiness to help save the earth through ministering. We should even minister to Jews where appropriate.

This come follow me manual is our curriculum for 2020. In 2019, we read the whole New Testament.

Conversion Is Our Goal

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Oh yeah,
We have a perpetual education fund. People go to college for very specific skills so that they can be sure to get a job. Then when they've earned the money back, they donate it to the next person to get an education. It's like a revolving door.

That's not a donation, it's a loan.

Didn't He go into synagogues?

Yes, but he didn't say you have to be there or anywhere specific to worship.

An LDS person can donate to tithing, which is basically simply building up the Church.
Anyone can donate to fast offerings, feeding the hungry.
Anyone can donate to humanitarian aid, and we've done $2 billion.
Anyone can donate to the Book of Mormon fund, to print Books of Mormon in virtually every language.
Anyone can donate to the Missionary Fund, to help with the costs of going on Missions to preach the LDS gospel full time.
I don't remember any more.

2 billion for charity, and how much for private church interests?
Me those are humans things that humans need money for. Why does god need money? Especially during the end. Could god possibly lose if Satan outspends him on a military, arms and munitions, and technology?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

OK. God took many things in Old Testament time to build His tabernacle and Abraham paid tithes. It was to set up His government on Earth. This government was not to overthrow man-made governments but was of another world. Wickedness is "the quality of being evil or morally wrong." Evil means, "harmful or tending to harm." By their fruits ye shall know them. Wickedness is a substandard moral. It means that you do harm to others. You can be wicked and believe in God. Priestcraft is when you believe in God and yet deceive others about God to harm them. You can be righteous and yet deceived about God, but if you are righteous, in this life or the next, you're going to realize it and accept it. Who is righteous is for the Lord to decide. Although there will ultimately be a fight, I don't know that there is $100 billion or that it is going to a militia; however the scriptures have warned us about what they would.

Can one be wicked, but seen as righteous? If it is up to the Lord, how will he pass on that intelligence to his troops on the ground in this war? Wouldn't the wicked try to subvert the lines of communication so that the righteous accidentally do the work of the wicked? Where does that put those righteous? Some other righteous could in turn mistake them from evil.

Wouldn't it be money better spent to help all people and accept that no matter how much you screen some bad eggs will benefit? Just try to manage that to minimize that group. It seems like it would have a better return.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Oh yeah,
We have a perpetual education fund. People go to college for very specific skills so that they can be sure to get a job. Then when they've earned the money back, they donate it to the next person to get an education. It's like a revolving door.

You must never have been involved in the process. It is nothing like you describe.

 

[robocop (actually)]

That's not a donation, it's a loan.

Yes, but he didn't say you have to be there or anywhere specific to worship.

2 billion for charity, and how much for private church interests?
Me those are humans things that humans need money for. Why does god need money? Especially during the end. Could god possibly lose if Satan outspends him on a military, arms and munitions, and technology?

You don't need to worship in a building, but there are so many members in some areas it's just appropriate.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

People are precious things. They can be fought for to be righteous if they are not completely wicked. The wicked will have huge dominion and the "Church of the Lamb" small dominion. I don't think a pre-emptive strike would even be possible.

I suppose that it doesn't really matter what happens to the righteous or how many there are. The Bible claims as few as 8 are enough. If that is so, the only thing to worry about is ones on personal goodness and where that will lead. What others choose or how many there are is immaterial to personal salvation. There doesn't appear to be a need for a war.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Can one be wicked, but seen as righteous? If it is up to the Lord, how will he pass on that intelligence to his troops on the ground in this war? Wouldn't the wicked try to subvert the lines of communication so that the righteous accidentally do the work of the wicked? Where does that put those righteous? Some other righteous could in turn mistake them from evil.

Wouldn't it be money better spent to help all people and accept that no matter how much you screen some bad eggs will benefit? Just try to manage that to minimize that group. It seems like it would have a better return.

It is simple in theory. Those are logistics that would play out.

 

[robocop (actually)]

I suppose that it doesn't really matter what happens to the righteous or how many there are. The Bible claims as few as 8 are enough. If that is so, the only thing to worry about is ones on personal goodness and where that will lead. What others choose or how many there are is immaterial to personal salvation.

No. We care about what happens to humanity. Why would we want Jesus to destroy them when we are trying to recover them.