Who are the real Children of Israel?

[Tazarah]

You just don't like the answer. Neither.

LMAO! ^ this is a prime example of how you constantly lie. You tell the most ugly and obvious lies.

Are people who originated in germany + those surrounding areas hebrews? Or are they gentiles.

You are the one who does not like the answer because it exposes who you people really are.

I, on the other hand, LOVE the answer.

 

[rosends]

LMAO! ^ this is a prime example of how you constantly lie. You tell the most ugly and obvious lies.

Are people who originated in germany + those surrounding areas hebrews? Or are they gentiles.

You are the one who does not like the answer because it exposes who you people really are.

I, on the other hand, LOVE the answer.

When you change your question, you find that it doesn't match the answer. Try to remember what you asked:
"Is Genesis 10:1-5 talking about HEBREWS, or GENTILES?"

Now you change it to
"Are people who originated in germany + those surrounding areas hebrews? Or are they gentiles."

The whole world can see how you changed questions, unless you think that Gen 10 is talking about modern Europe. Do you also think that it is talking about New Hampshire when it mentions Canaan?

People who were born in Texas might have ancestors from Poland. People who originated in Poland might have parents who originated in Syria. You don't have to like it, but that's the way things work.

 

[Tazarah]

When you change your question, you find that it doesn't match the answer. Try to remember what you asked:
"Is Genesis 10:1-5 talking about HEBREWS, or GENTILES?"

Now you change it to
"Are people who originated in germany + those surrounding areas hebrews? Or are they gentiles."

The whole world can see how you changed questions, unless you think that Gen 10 is talking about modern Europe. Do you also think that it is talking about New Hampshire when it mentions Canaan?

People who were born in Texas might have ancestors from Poland. People who originated in Poland might have parents who originated in Syria. You don't have to like it, but that's the way things work.

No, no, no. I’m not letting you get away with the BS that you are trying to pull. What everyone does notice is how you refuse to give an answer to the question, no matter HOW I word it.

Genesis 10:1-5 is naming the sons of Japheth and the territories of land that they occupied. All of those areas are what make up the eastern parts of modern day europe. We all know that Jacob/ISRAEL was promised the land of Israel... and we know that the people who came from the line of Jacob/ISRAEL are ISRAELITES, regardless of where they migrate to or where they live. ISRAELITES originated in ISRAEL, not europe/germany. Your people, the ASHKENAZI, come from ASHKENAZ, who is from the line of JAPHETH, originating in EUROPE. Your people simply migrated into modern day Israel, just like how ALL of the sources that I have provided state. Literally every source that I have provided says that the ashkenazi people originated in GERMANY, hence the name ASHKENAZ. Did JAPHETH come from the line of Jacob? NO. Did ASHKENAZ come from the line of Jacob? NO. Do any of the descendants of Japheth > Ashkenaz come from Jacob? NO. Did Jacob/Israel originate in germany/europe? NO.

The line of the hebrews comes from Abraham > Isaac > Jacob.

Ashkenaz/ashkenazi people come from NONE of those people, and are therefore GENTILES, as stated in Genesis 10:1-5 — and so are all people who come from him. Cut the BS, you will never win because in the end of every situation the truth always prevails. Your only tactic is to lie and say that the bible does not mean what it says. Your people are documented as originating in EUROPE and migrating to Israel. If your people were TRULY Israelites (which they know they are not), then they would NOT be calling themselves ASHKENAZI, they would call themselves ISRAELITES. For the millionth time, your people originated in EUROPE, mass converted to “JUDAISM”, and then they migrated into Israel.

 

[Flankerl]

"muh tru Jewz" - The Thread

 

[Tazarah]

"muh tru Jewz" - The Thread

Why do you type like you have dyslexia?

 

[Tazarah]

That isn't "east europe jews", like Ive said. "East europe jews", can mean different from what you, im assuming , you would call ashkenaz; im not even sure, at this point, because you have khazar mixed up with "east europe", jews, another arbitrary and odd association, etc.


Your argument needs revising, but you just arent listening.

You are the one who is confused. Everything that I am saying makes sense. Ashkenaz = germany. Where is germany? Eastern europe.

“The 1973 Jewish Encyclopedia documents that approximately 90% of the world’s so-called Jews are Khazar.

A. N. Poliak, Professor of Medieval Jewish History at Tel Aviv University, says that the majority of Eastern European Jews are Khazar and Japhetic in origin, not Semitic. Immigration statistics indicate approximately 90% of the world’s so-called or self-styled ‘Jews’ living in 42 countries of the world are emigrants of Eastern European Khazar Jews.”

 

[Tazarah]

Theyre coming off shabbat in some places.

Shabbat begins sundown on friday and ends sundown on saturday.

 

[rosends]

No, no, no. I’m not letting you get away with the BS that you are trying to pull. What everyone does notice is how you refuse to give an answer to the question, no matter HOW I word it.

Look back. I answered it.

Genesis 10:1-5 is naming the sons of Japheth and the territories of land that they occupied. All of those areas are what make up the eastern parts of modern day europe.

That's an interesting claim. Can you tell me what land Magog is today? No opinions of interpretation. Do you have a map of it and text to prove yourself? The classical Jewish understanding has those lands include parts of the middle east. Now, if you look futher, you will see that the 14 nations coming from Yafet are separate from the approx 25 from Shem. Since Abraham descended from Shem and the Jews, from Abraham, we know that the 14 nations of Yafet are not the ones from Abraham. Simple enough. So this ensured that when the children of Shem/Abraham were exiled, there were OTHER nations to be mixed among.

Your people, the ASHKENAZI, come from ASHKENAZ,

No, my people come from Abraham. Sadly, because of various exiles, many ended up in other nations, including Poland, Russia, Germany, Spain and Yemen.

Your people simply migrated into modern day Israel,

After migrating out, yes. ell, part of the Jewish population. Some stayed in Israel and some in other countries of the middle east.

Did Jacob/Israel originate in germany/europe? NO.

Exactly. And since I am from the tribe of Judah (at least part of my paternal family is) I am not from Germany. Thanks!

Ashkenaz/ashkenazi people come from NONE of those people, and are therefore GENTILES

Except that the modern word Gentiles, referring to non-Jews would also include members of 24 or so of the nations from Shem also, and all the ones of Ham. So a bunch of semites are gentiles as are other nations. This includes Cush and Canaan who are progenitors of modern day blacks. You have just proved that blacks are gentiles. Well done.

 

[Tazarah]

What is the factor of a "khazar". How are you telling this, other words.

From 652-1016 A.D., there was a medieval kingdom of Khazaria that included part of modern day Russia, Ukraine, and a sliver of what is now Kazakhstan.

They were warriors who worshiped many false gods, making them ripe for invasion.

They were being pressured by the Holy Roman Empire in the West, Russian Orthodox Christians in the North, and from the Islamic Caliphate in the East.

Russian Prince Vladimir would force people to become Christians, or cut off their head.

In the 8th Century, under the reign of King Bulan, they adopted Judaism as their religion. And when the king converts, everyone converts.

This was not a spiritual choice, just a way to avoid conflict with other countries.

Talmudic Rabbi’s were brought in from Babylon, to teach the people Jewish traditions.

After a few hundred years, the people were fully converted to their beliefs.

They were steeped in Judaism rituals, and became “self-styled” Jews with their clothing, beards, long hair on the side, etc…

The Khazarian Empire was a war-like people, who used to be hired out by other countries for battles, so they were already very domineering.

The Jewish Babylonian Talmud told them they could rule the world and have all of the wealth, so they embraced the global domination view of the Talmud.

Prince Vladimer of Russia did attack Khazaria, causing the Khazar Jews to flee. Then Genghis Khan conquered the land and the rest of them fled.

The Khazar Jews settled in Russia (they pretended to be Christian to hide there), Hungary, Poland, Germany, and elsewhere in Eastern Europe.

 

[Tazarah]

Doesn't that mess up, Jesus on morning, risen...
Thread question, there. Although, there wont be any answers, so...

The sabbath has nothing to do with Jesus rising. Mark 16:1 only mentions the sabbath because during the sabbath you are not allowed to work, cook, buy or sell — so it said that when the sabbath was past, Mary M. and Mary went to buy spices. Mark 16 doesn’t say exactly when Jesus rose, all it says is that they went to his grave very early in the morning on the first day of the week (Mark 16:1-5). It does not say that the sabbath was on the same morning that they went to see Jesus.

 

[Tazarah]

Look back. I answered it.

That's an interesting claim. Can you tell me what land Magog is today? No opinions of interpretation. Do you have a map of it and text to prove yourself? The classical Jewish understanding has those lands include parts of the middle east. Now, if you look futher, you will see that the 14 nations coming from Yafet are separate from the approx 25 from Shem. Since Abraham descended from Shem and the Jews, from Abraham, we know that the 14 nations of Yafet are not the ones from Abraham. Simple enough. So this ensured that when the children of Shem/Abraham were exiled, there were OTHER nations to be mixed among.

No, my people come from Abraham. Sadly, because of various exiles, many ended up in other nations, including Poland, Russia, Germany, Spain and Yemen.

After migrating out, yes. ell, part of the Jewish population. Some stayed in Israel and some in other countries of the middle east.

Exactly. And since I am from the tribe of Judah (at least part of my paternal family is) I am not from Germany. Thanks!

Except that the modern word Gentiles, referring to non-Jews would also include members of 24 or so of the nations from Shem also, and all the ones of Ham. So a bunch of semites are gentiles as are other nations. This includes Cush and Canaan who are progenitors of modern day blacks. You have just proved that blacks are gentiles. Well done.

I will answer your question about magog — magog is Russia. But everything else that you said is false, according to the bible, your own jewish encyclopedia, etc.

The original hebrews of the bible were black.

“Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.” [Lamentations 4:8]

“Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.” [Lamentations 5:10]

Why do you want me to post more evidence, so that you can lie and deny it? Every single time that I post facts from a credible source, you lie and find some silly BS to say about it. Like I said, you don’t have to admit the truth because your people already do.

Sorry, you are not an Israelite.

 

[Rival]

Why do you type like you have dyslexia?

Why can't you read?

 

[Tazarah]

Why can't you read?

Why are you triggered?

 

[Flankerl]

Why do you type like you have dyslexia?

I know my target audience.

 

[Tazarah]

I know my target audience.

Troglodytes?

 

[rosends]

I will answer your question about magog — magog is Russia.

That's a nice claim. I notice nothing to back it up.

The original hebrews of the bible were black.

“Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.” [Lamentations 4:8]

“Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.” [Lamentations 5:10]

"because of the terrible famine." So when there was no famine, they were not black. Because lack of food turns people black. It also makes them like sticks. So your contention is that the original Hebrews were hungry, black sticks, even before there was famine. OK then.

Keep on believing what you must and spouting what you invent. It is adorable. It is like watching a child stamp his feet and shout because he thinks that that will turn his rantings and temper tantrum into anything persuasive. You have done more to disprove your supposed position (the map pointing to another kingdom as the source of slaves, the KJV's obviously shown error, the notion of Kush as a 'gentile' etc) than I ever could.

 

[Tazarah]

That's a nice claim. I notice nothing to back it up.



"because of the terrible famine." So when there was no famine, they were not black. Because lack of food turns people black. It also makes them like sticks. So your contention is that the original Hebrews were hungry, black sticks, even before there was famine. OK then.

Their skin was black because of the famine?

Wasn’t Hitler starving your people to death in those camps?

When did ANY of their skin turn black?

LOL.

 

[rosends]

Their skin was black because of the famine?

Wasn’t Hitler starving your people to death in those camps?

When did ANY of their skin turn black?

LOL.

And yet the verse you quoted says "“Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.” [Lamentations 5:10]".

Are you familiar with the English word "because"?

A side note and thank you for inspiring me to look this up:

"Women usually stop menstruating and puberty is delayed. Due to the wasting away of the tissues around the orbits, many peoples eyes will stick start to stick out. The skin becomes dry and inelastic. Dark pigmentation can start to appear on the face and trunk, it is probably caused by a glandular disturbance. "
The Effects of Lack of Food

 

[Tazarah]

And yet the verse you quoted says "“Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.” [Lamentations 5:10]".

Are you familiar with the English word "because"?

That’s just you twisting the scripture like you have done countless time.

So... during the holocaust when Hitler was starving the “jews”, howcome their skin did not turn black?

lmao!!!!!

 

[rosends]

That’s just you twisting the scripture like you have done countless time.

So... during the holocaust when Hitler was starving the “jews”, howcome their skin did not turn black?

lmao!!!!!

What twisting? Reminding you of a word you forgot..."because"?

By your own logic, the Jews were not black before the starvation. You quoted the verse, not I. Sorry you can't handle your own claims.