Who Can Prove God's Existence?

[Kilgore Trout]

Speaking for myself, I have no intention of ceasing to exist.

I have no such intention either.

 

[fantome profane]

Speaking for myself, I have no intention of ceasing to exist.

Can I read that to mean that you have an intention to exist?

I might say that I also have an intention to exists. Or perhaps that an intention to exist exists. But I am not convinced that this intention will always exist.

 

[Willamena]

Can I read that to mean that you have an intention to exist?

And/or neither an intention to exist --just so.

I might say that I also have an intention to exists. Or perhaps that an intention to exist exists. But I am not convinced that this intention will always exist.

Impermance is as impermanence does.

 

[Humanistheart]

Speaking for myself, I have no intention of ceasing to exist.

Even if one has that intention it's my experience that it doesn't happen. You go on existing weather you want to or not.

 

[McBell]

...Everything must have a producer or creator, so we humans must also. ...

So who/what produced/created god?

Your arguement is elogical, you speak as if that everything must have creator.

You are correct.
However, if you read the quote I replied to that is EXACTLY what the author of said quoted post claimed.

 

[McBell]

The right concept is every created thing has a creator. doesnt it sound more logical to you?

Yes it does.
However, that is NOT what was stated in the post I replied to.

 

[Freelancer7]

The concept of "God" seems pretty radical to me, and I don't see any reason or justification in the existence of God...

Who Can Prove God's Existence?

God??

 

[Jeremiah]

I exist, therefore GOD exists.

And since I exist, Fringelgore Eater the Gods exist and he eats your god....with mustard.

 

[ark_of_salvation]

You are correct.
However, if you read the quote I replied to that is EXACTLY what the author of said quoted post claimed.

sorry i dont understand what you mean and what reply you are talking about

 

[ark_of_salvation]

yes it does.
However, that is not what was stated in the post i replied to.

that is exactly why i posted it

 

[philalethes]

The concept of "God" seems pretty radical to me, and I don't see any reason or justification in the existence of God ... Who Can Prove God's Existence?

Greetings of Peace,

Frithjof Schuon has very admirably explained the classical proofs of God's existence in his book Logic and Transcendence which I recommend for study and discussion. The chapter in question "Concerning the Proofs of God" is available from the publisher's website in the online library section. Being a new member, I am presently unable to post the link but you can obtain it by googling World Wisdom Publications, following the link to the online library, and selecting Frithjof Schuon from the author menu.

In Peace,
Philalethes

 

[McBell]

Greetings of Peace,

Frithjof Schuon has very admirably explained the classical proofs of God's existence in his book Logic and Transcendence which I recommend for study and discussion. The chapter in question "Concerning the Proofs of God" is available from the publisher's website in the online library section. Being a new member, I am presently unable to post the link but you can obtain it by googling World Wisdom Publications, following the link to the online library, and selecting Frithjof Schuon from the author menu.

In Peace,
Philalethes

Are you talking about this:

http://www.studiesincomparativereli...cerning_Proofs_of_God-by_Frithjof_Schuon.aspx​

It is nothing more than a preaching to the choir.

 

[lightgirl]

One of Satan's greatest tools is to deny that there is a Christ and a God in general. There are many evidences for God--take this amazing, beautiful earth for example. Also, if you believe in the testimony of prophets, that they saw what they said they saw (from Moses, Noah, Isaiah on down the line), then we know from their testimony, as well as holy scripture that God is real, he exists, and knows and loves each one of us individually. The best part about all of this, is that just as the Holy Ghost descended on Christ when he was baptized, the Holy Ghost can descend on us and testify of truth. God hasn't just left us on our own without help from sources such as modern-day prophets, scripture, and modern-day revelation.

 

[philalethes]

Are you talking about this:

Concerning Proofs of God by Frithjof Schuon
​

It is nothing more than a preaching to the choir.

Greetings of Peace,

That is the correct article. Thank you for posting the link. However, if you take the time to read it you will find that far from preaching, it is instead logical and rigorous. Would you care to read and discuss some of the ideas expressed therein?

In Peace,
Philalethes

 

[cottage]

Greetings of Peace,

That is the correct article. Thank you for posting the link. However, if you take the time to read it you will find that far from preaching, it is instead logical and rigorous. Would you care to read and discuss some of the ideas expressed therein?

In Peace,
Philalethes

Hi. The article mentions the three classic proofs: the ontological argument, the cosmological argument and the teleological argument. The first being a non-inferential argument (existence by definition) and the second being arguments from features of the known world. Further arguments (if they can even be considered as such) are proofs from mysticism and proofs from miracles. Is there a particular 'proof' that grabs you?

 

[AK4]

The concept of "God" seems pretty radical to me, and I don't see any reason or justification in the existence of God...

Who Can Prove God's Existence?

I will answer your question with a question and please look at it scientifically [hence your science should be the proof for you]. Oh before i ask you this question think on this--the Scriptures that were written thousands of years of ago answer this question so this should give you some reason to believe them. [I will post them after you answer]

Anyway

Can something ever exist from nothing? or better stated Can something come from nothing?

If not, you have a God. If it can, you have no God. Logic and even science should show you this answer

 

[McBell]

it is instead logical and rigorous.

Only if you do not understand how logic actually works.

Simply put, the article is for those who already belive to ratify their beliefs.
Nothing more.

Would you care to read and discuss some of the ideas expressed therein?

Start a thread on the article pointing out the part(s) you want to discuss.

 

[McBell]

Can something ever exist from nothing? or better stated Can something come from nothing?

If not, you have a God. If it can, you have no God. Logic and even science should show you this answer

Talk about illogical.

If nothing can exist from nothing then where did your God come from?
Of course, you will need show that there was ever a time when there was nothing.

 

[Riverwolf]

I will answer your question with a question and please look at it scientifically [hence your science should be the proof for you]. Oh before i ask you this question think on this--the Scriptures that were written thousands of years of ago answer this question so this should give you some reason to believe them. [I will post them after you answer]

Anyway

Can something ever exist from nothing? or better stated Can something come from nothing?

If not, you have a God. If it can, you have no God. Logic and even science should show you this answer

Please explain.

The book of Genesis doesn't even talk about creation ex-nihilo.

 

[AK4]

Talk about illogical.

If nothing can exist from nothing then where did your God come from?
Of course, you will need show that there was ever a time when there was nothing.

What? I am an advocate of eveything had to come from something not nothing from nothing. The Father brought for Jesus then Jesus brought forth everything else. Just as science keep finding out more and more that there are even more smaller things that we once thought was the smallest thing [even the atom has been broken down to quartz] so can you do when breaking it all the way down to the Father.

Thats logical. How far can you break down the Father? Who knows and hence that is our [mans] journey perhaps. If you cant see this well what can i say