Who did the Muslims worship?

[Mr Cheese]

good stuff?



Prehistory: Arabia before Islam | The Meaning of Islam

Prehistory (c. 3000 BCE-500 CE)

The prehistory of Islamdom is the history of central Afro-Eurasia from Hammurabi of Babylon to the Achaemenid Cyrus II in Persia to Alexander the Great to the Sasanian emperor Nushirvan to Muhammad in Arabia; or, in a Muslim view, from Adam to Noah to Abraham to Moses to Jesus to Muhammad.
The potential for Muslim empire building was established with the rise of the earliest civilizations in western Asia. It was refined with the emergence and spread of what have been called the region's Axial Age religions--Abrahamic, centered on the Hebrew patriarch Abraham, and Mazdean, focused on the Iranian deity Ahura Mazdah--and their later relative, Christianity. It was facilitated by the expansion of trade from eastern Asia to the Mediterranean, and by the political changes thus affected. The Muslims were heirs to the ancient Egyptians, Babylonians, Persians, Hebrews, even the Greeks and Indians; the societies they created bridged time and space, from ancient to modern and from east to west.

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[Shahzad]

correct...

that split up into two groups if I remember rightly...

essentially one guy had a fat ugly woman who was ripe, and fertile

The other guy had a thin beautiful woman that wasnt able to have kiddywinks

One group became the jews, the other the muslims....

You're thinking of Jacob and his two wives, Leah and Rachel, the Jews are said to descend from the sons of both of these women. In Abrahamic mythology Arabs are said to be descended from Abraham and his slave girl, Hagar, while Jews are said to be descended from Abraham and his wife, Sarah.

 

[Gharib]

You're thinking of Jacob and his two wives, Leah and Rachel, the Jews are said to descend from the sons of both of these women. In Abrahamic mythology Arabs are said to be descended from Abraham and his slave girl, Hagar, while Jews are said to be descended from Abraham and his wife, Sarah.

and your proof is exactly where?

 

[Shahzad]

and your proof is exactly where?

That's according to Abrahamic mythology/religion, I didn't say I believed in it. It's a shame you don't know your own religion though!

 

[Gharib]

That's according to Abrahamic mythology/religion, I didn't say I believed in it. It's a shame you don't know your own religion though!

again, your proof is exactly where that i do not know my religion?

 

[Shahzad]

again, your proof is exactly where that i do not know my religion?

Because you aren't aware that the Hadith say that Hagar is the mother of the Arabs, being the mother of Ishmael.

 

[Gharib]

Because you aren't aware that the Hadith say that Hagar is the mother of the Arabs, being the mother of Ishmael.

so how did you come to a conclusion that i don't know this?

 

[Mr Cheese]

Because you aren't aware that the Hadith say that Hagar is the mother of the Arabs, being the mother of Ishmael.

Well yeah, this is why (one reasons) muslims hate Jews....

thanks for the history lesson...

My girl friend is the expert there, being a coptic christian and nearly a carmelite nun....not I

 

[Shahzad]

so how did you come to a conclusion that i don't know this?

Because you asked me for proof of what I wrote up there, why did you ask for that if you already believe the same thing?

 

[Gharib]

Because you asked me for proof of what I wrote up there, why did you ask for that if you already believe the same thing?

why are you changing the conversation all of a sudden?

i asked for proof that i do not know about my religion, coz you said i don't. so where did this come from?

 

[Fatihah]

Well yeah, this is why (one reasons) muslims hate Jews....

thanks for the history lesson...

My girl friend is the expert there, being a coptic christian and nearly a carmelite nun....not I

Response: The hatred between jews and muslims comes from the jewish occupancy of israel. Not that it's justified and not all muslims feel this way, however, it stems from this.

 

[Mr Cheese]

Response: The hatred between jews and muslims comes from the jewish occupancy of israel. Not that it's justified and not all muslims feel this way, however, it stems from this.

Obviously you've never read the Qu'ran....

the muslim hatred goes back centuries...

the qu'ran refers to ALL Jews as "hypocrits"

:cover:

 

[Gharib]

Obviously you've never read the Qu'ran....

the muslim hatred goes back centuries...

the qu'ran refers to ALL Jews as "hypocrits"

:cover:

obviously you have read the quran but have not understood it.

what fatihah said is i believe partially true, there is hatred between jews and muslims due to them betraying Allah (swt) and his messengers, therefore who ever is the enemie of Allah (swt) is also the enemie of the true believers, and they also betrayed the prophet during te early years of his prophetic life.

there is more but that should be enough or general atleast.

 

[Shahzad]

why are you changing the conversation all of a sudden?

i asked for proof that i do not know about my religion, coz you said i don't. so where did this come from?

Look I really have no interest in this particular discussion, so I'll make it as simple as possible. I made a statement about what Abrahamic mythology says about the ancestry of Jews and Arabs, you asked for proof of that which led me to believe you don't agree with what I wrote, then you said you actually believe in it which makes me wonder why on Earth you asked me for proof in the first place.

 

[Gharib]

Look I really have no interest in this particular discussion, so I'll make it as simple as possible. I made a statement about what Abrahamic mythology says about the ancestry of Jews and Arabs, you asked for proof of that which led me to believe you don't agree with what I wrote, then you said you actually believe in it which makes me wonder why on Earth you asked me for proof in the first place.

i didn't, you assumed i did just like you assumed that i was dissagreeing with you.

 

[Mr Cheese]

obviously you have read the quran but have not understood it.

what fatihah said is i believe partially true, there is hatred between jews and muslims due to them betraying Allah (swt) and his messengers, therefore who ever is the enemie of Allah (swt) is also the enemie of the true believers, and they also betrayed the prophet during te early years of his prophetic life.

there is more but that should be enough or general atleast.

Well you proved my point, Muslim hatred is a lot older than the Israeli Palestine conflict...

Stupidly so in my opinion, to the point that, as I mentioned, the current conflict goes back... 4-5 thousand years.....

That really is a stupid amount of time to hold a grudge.:sarcastic

 

[Gharib]

Well you proved my point, Muslim hatred is a lot older than the Israeli Palestine conflict...

Stupidly so in my opinion, to the point that, as I mentioned, the current conflict goes back... 4-5 thousand years.....

That really is a stupid amount of time to hold a grudge.:sarcastic

so which exactly is stupid, time or the grudge?

 

[Shahzad]

i didn't, you assumed i did just like you assumed that i was dissagreeing with you.

So why would you ask for proof in the first place then?!

 

[Gharib]

So why would you ask for proof in the first place then?!

did you read the post to which you just replied with this statement?

may i suggest you read it again.

 

[Fatihah]

Obviously you've never read the Qu'ran....

the muslim hatred goes back centuries...

the qu'ran refers to ALL Jews as "hypocrits"

:cover:

Response: I've never read the qur'an? And you must have, right? Then there is only one way to find out. Quote any verse from the qur'an which says that muslim hatred for jews go back for centuries or that all jews are hypocrites, if you are truthful.