Booko
Deviled Hen
Well, I agree with you FatMan, but as you probably know, it's some of the Christians who are telling me stuff like this. Heck, I've been hearing it from since I was just old enough to understand language.
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Who is going to Hell?
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Well, I agree with you FatMan, but as you probably know, it's some of the Christians who are telling me stuff like this. Heck, I've been hearing it from since I was just old enough to understand language.
Mat 5:22
(22) But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mar 9:43-50
(43) And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
(44) Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
(45) And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
(46) Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
(47) And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
(48) Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
(49) For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.
(50) Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season it? Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another.
(22) But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mar 9:43-50
(43) And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
(44) Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
(45) And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
(46) Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
(47) And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
(48) Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
(49) For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.
(50) Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season it? Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another.
Booko
Deviled Hen
These two verses don't make a strong case in themselves (I'd have to look at the wider context, but I'm off to drive in a couple minutes, sorry).
Anyway, these 2 are not strictly exclusionary. They address "who's in" but not "who's out."
Booko
Deviled Hen
Oh please show me the PROOF that you say you have that hell does not exist.
:faint:
Actually, I'll show you the proof that it does. I've not only been there -- I've come back. With the kids, no less.
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=808&cat=544
Booko
Deviled Hen
I know I'm a comedian, but do people have to ignore points I've already made??
From my perspective, you hadn't yet made those points when I wrote my reply.
I noticed it a little later as I read downstream in this thread.
Hey, I'd like to see you say anything intelligent while you're surrounded by crazed Irish dancers kicking all about you for 3 hours straight! :slap:
Nanda
Polyanna
Booko
Deviled Hen
Oh, now I never saw the club! Darn!
I have a Damnation University sticker for my car. But as I live in the South, I figured I shouldn't put it on for public view.
I've considered getting a degree at Dam U...I just can't think what to major in.
love
tri-polar optimist
I have never been what some would call brilliant and some times reading different opinions on RF just confuses me more. One thing I do believe in is a loving God (Creator).This belief will carry me into the next world.
I have a dear friend of some 25 years now who does not believe in God, yet he is one of the most giving people I have ever met. He believes when this life is over it is lights out (nothing).
I cannot see my loving God even thinking about sending him to hell.
I will quote the words of a song I was taught as a child.
Jesus loves the little children.
All little children of the world.
Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in His sight.
Jesus loves the little children of the world.
I believe God sees us all as children with much to learn about His nature.
I believe also that true evil exists in this world, and I am no genius.
Evil has a place prepared for it and some of us call it hell.
I have a dear friend of some 25 years now who does not believe in God, yet he is one of the most giving people I have ever met. He believes when this life is over it is lights out (nothing).
I cannot see my loving God even thinking about sending him to hell.
I will quote the words of a song I was taught as a child.
Jesus loves the little children.
All little children of the world.
Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in His sight.
Jesus loves the little children of the world.
I believe God sees us all as children with much to learn about His nature.
I believe also that true evil exists in this world, and I am no genius.
Evil has a place prepared for it and some of us call it hell.
thedictator
A Dictator of a Coach
Sorry:sorry1: But not proof, it may be a belief system, but not proof. :thud:
Draka
Wonder Woman
Thing is, in order to have tangible proof that something doesn't exist you would first have to consider it's existence in the first place. If something doesn't exist there wouldn't be any proof of it anyway. I realize that this may make no sense, but it makes perfect sense in my head.
I can say there is an invisible 6 inch tall female gnome walking up my wall in front of me, but as I have no proof to give you of it, and it makes no difference how strongly I believe it is there, you can not prove to me that it isn't there. Likewise, you may believe that there really is a place of fiery damnation that souls go to when they die if they have not fulfilled some requirements, but as you have no proof that such a place actually exists, one cannot prove to you otherwise that it doesn't.
Belief in the unprovable and intangible existences are in our heads. No physical proof exists to prove or disprove either way. While you could be right, there is no proof, and there is no proof you are wrong either. Same goes for all beliefs. That's why they are called beliefs and not facts.
Thanks. Now I have a mental image of Michael Flatley in tights while I'm eating my Cheerios.
I need to find a new favorite cereal.
kiobe
New Member
Thanks, well put.
Since the non-existance of something is impossible to prove, the responsibility falls on the claimant to prove, with tangable facts, the existance. Again, since this cannot be done with factual information corroborating any biblical text, the logical conclusion is that it doesn't exist.
Ãanisty
Well-Known Member
I don't see how this conclusion is any more logical than any other conclusion.
Ãanisty
Well-Known Member
Don't worry...you're invited to the barbecue too.Well, yes...but you're going to hell...
(I hope you know me better than that)
You'll have to work out your own transportation though and make sure you have a passport. :yes: