Who will enter the paradise , the christains , the jews ,the muslims

[Gauss]

everyone will be judged on the basis of his deeds.Belief does not matter.Even if one is an atheist and did so many good things he will surely go to paradise.

That depends on whether he has a Master or not. Maybe he has a Master wiuthout knowing it, then he can go, without Master he can only be lucky in his next life.

 

[Muffled]

And that Thief which hung at His side was saved?.....or no?

'....and you shall walk with me in paradise...'

That is within the context of the truth of Chritianity.

 

[Muffled]

everyone will be judged on the basis of his deeds.Belief does not matter.Even if one is an atheist and did so many good things he will surely go to paradise.

So how do you think that works? Is it magic? Do a few deeds and presto digito you find yourself in Paradise. I don't believe in magic. I believe that things occur by intelligence and power. For instance, I believe that an apple falls to the ground because of the power of gravity and the intelligence that created gravity.

 

[Muffled]

I actually had this discussion with an atheist.....face to face.

He had just declared his disbelief and reported he was once the deacon of a local congregation.

For his sake I explained why his declaration would probably not keep him out of heaven.

Bill makes such practice....
He does unto others as he would have it done unto him.

On the other hand....
If I ask of God a good thing, unto my self or some else.....
He might do so....and I would be in His debt...my soul in forfeit.

If I ask a good thing from the devil, He might do so....
and would I not be in His debt....my soul in forfeit.

Good things come and go.
Are these the lines drawn?

Isn't it gracious of you to be the blind leading the blind? You don't know how to get to Heaven and you are giving advice on how another person can get there.

 

[budhabee]

The answer is of course all three descendants of Abraham; Moses was sent to Israel and Yeshua was sent to Esau and Mohammed was sent to Ishmael so that The Holy One Blessed be He could bless each branch of Abraham as G-d had promised to him.

errr....then....where is the Buddah?

 

[Midnight Pete]

Who will enter the paradise , the christains , the jews ,the muslims/QUOTE]

This kind of question is not wise to ask. This is how wars start.

 

[ninerbuff]

Paradise is subjective. Put me on a Pacific Island with some good food and family and that's Paradise.

 

[Maimonides]

Godobeyer your analogy is wrong regarding christians. If the Christians are right Muslims go to he'll because muslims don't accept Jesus as their lord and savior but heck, this is why I am areligious because your god trivializes belief. The universe is so vast and the planet earth is a speck of dust and yet a magnificent entity called God will doom a sentient being to hell all because of a religious belief?

 

[Midnight Pete]

Who will enter the paradise , the christains , the jews ,the muslims

Such thinking only leads to hell.

A Buddhist would say that all three groups are too attached to the concept of Paradise.

 

[arun]

So how do you think that works? Is it magic? Do a few deeds and presto digito you find yourself in Paradise. I don't believe in magic. I believe that things occur by intelligence and power. For instance, I believe that an apple falls to the ground because of the power of gravity and the intelligence that created gravity.

we would be judged on the basis of spiritual progress we have achieved.
we gain this spiritual progress through work, prayer ,and knowledge.So we should help the poor in whatever way we can,be unselfish,don't injure others etc.. and the God will reward us when we die.

Buddha said love for the sake of love.It's not necessary to believe in God in-order to do good things.belief is a small part.And anyone can have the doubt that I have not seen God,So why should I believe ?.I agree with that.God won't show up before us easily.But I don't agree with those who say we can never see God in this life or there is no God at all.I also have not seen God,But I believe the words of the Gurus who say you can see God,and I follow their path.

So God would say, It's okay that you didn't believe in my existence.But you did good things,you have a good character and that's what I expect from a believer or non-believer.

Some quotes by Swami Vivekananda:
* Each soul is potentially divine.
* The goal is to manifest this Divinity within by controlling nature, external and internal.
* Do this either by work, or worship, or psychic control, or philosophy—by one, or more, or all of these—and be free.
* This is the whole of religion. Doctrines, or dogmas, or rituals, or books, or temples, or forms, are but secondary details.
* So long as even a single dog in my country is without food my whole religion is to feed it and serve it, anything excluding that is unreligious.
* Arise, awake and stop not till the goal is reached.
* Serving man is serving God.
* We are responsible for what we are, and whatever we wish ourselves to be, we have the power to make ourselves. If what we are now has been the result of our own past actions, it certainly follows that whatever we wish to be in future can be produced by our present actions; so we have to know how to act.
* You have to grow from the inside out. None can teach you, none can make you spiritual. There is no other teacher but your own soul.
* IT is good to love God for hope of reward, but it is better to love God for love’s sake; and the prayer goes: O Lord, I do not want wealth nor children nor learning. If it be Thy will, I shall go from birth to birth. But grant me this, that I may love thee without the hope of reward - ’love’ unselfishly for love’s sake.
* If money help a man to do good to others, it is of some value; but if not, it is simply a mass of evil, and the sooner it is got rid of, the better.

 

[Muffled]

we would be judged on the basis of spiritual progress we have achieved.
we gain this spiritual progress through work, prayer ,and knowledge.So we should help the poor in whatever way we can,be unselfish,don't injure others etc.. and the God will reward us when we die.

Buddha said love for the sake of love.It's not necessary to believe in God in-order to do good things.belief is a small part.And anyone can have the doubt that I have not seen God,So why should I believe ?.I agree with that.God won't show up before us easily.But I don't agree with those who say we can never see God in this life or there is no God at all.I also have not seen God,But I believe the words of the Gurus who say you can see God,and I follow their path.

So God would say, It's okay that you didn't believe in my existence.But you did good things,you have a good character and that's what I expect from a believer or non-believer.

Some quotes by Swami Vivekananda:
* Each soul is potentially divine.
* The goal is to manifest this Divinity within by controlling nature, external and internal.
* Do this either by work, or worship, or psychic control, or philosophy—by one, or more, or all of these—and be free.
* This is the whole of religion. Doctrines, or dogmas, or rituals, or books, or temples, or forms, are but secondary details.
* So long as even a single dog in my country is without food my whole religion is to feed it and serve it, anything excluding that is unreligious.
* Arise, awake and stop not till the goal is reached.
* Serving man is serving God.
* We are responsible for what we are, and whatever we wish ourselves to be, we have the power to make ourselves. If what we are now has been the result of our own past actions, it certainly follows that whatever we wish to be in future can be produced by our present actions; so we have to know how to act.
* You have to grow from the inside out. None can teach you, none can make you spiritual. There is no other teacher but your own soul.
* IT is good to love God for hope of reward, but it is better to love God for love’s sake; and the prayer goes: O Lord, I do not want wealth nor children nor learning. If it be Thy will, I shall go from birth to birth. But grant me this, that I may love thee without the hope of reward - ’love’ unselfishly for love’s sake.
* If money help a man to do good to others, it is of some value; but if not, it is simply a mass of evil, and the sooner it is got rid of, the better.

I tend to agree that God will judge and reward righteousness but that does not necessarily mean that he will automatically send someone to heaven. It s more likely that he will send a person to another life in this world which is not paradise at present. However mcuh depends on what the person is apt to ask of God. A person who believes in returning to life on earth is not apt to ask God to take him to Paradise. A person who believes he has to earn his way into Heaven may not expect to get there because of the life he has led.

What does that mean? Why not just hate for the sake of hate? after all each has its own value in itself. If he is saying that love doesn't have a value beyond its intrinsic value then why should it be considered more valuable than hate? I think the Buddha just assumes that love is good and doesn't understand why.

This may be so but it doesn't work for everyone. Otherwise this world would be full of love and perfect. I suspect it doesn't work very well for those who don't believe in God as well.

The Bible says that God expects perfection. Good isn't good enough if it is leavened with evil. I am the same way. I expect perfection. Anything less is not Paradise.

 

[Muffled]

errr....then....where is the Buddah?

Most likely re-incarnated as some guru somewhere. I read a book about this where the Dalai Lama is considered to be the re-incarnation of Gautama. Of course that is speculation and difficult to ascertain.

 

[Godobeyer]

Nice But I kinda disagree on the last part. In the case of Catholics, it has been asked: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God? The Vatican Council answered these: Lumen Gentium proclaimed that: "...the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator (in case of jews who accept the Father and Muslims, Allah). In the first place among these are the Muslims who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge humankind." Also on the Nostra Aetate:" Upon the Muslims, too, the Church (Catholic) looks with esteem. They adore one God, living and enduring, merciful and all powerful, maker of heaven and earth and speaker to humanity. They strive to submit to His inscrutable decrees, just as did as Abraham, with whom the Islamic faith is pleased to associate itself. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as prophet. They also honour Mary, His virgin mother; at times they call on her too with devotion. In addition they await the judgment when God will give each person his due after raising him up. Consequently, they prize moral life and give worship to God especially through prayer, alms giving and fasting." Therefore, we may have different faith and different convictions and beliefs about God and salvation. But, we worship only one the same God, so therefore, a Jew, a Christian and a Muslim can be in heaven. We just worship and adore him in a different manner but as long as we worship Him and Him alone, how can He not welcome any of these three in heaven?

very value comment
and very interesting question
it's depend to HIM , as I said before we the muslim believe in all the prophet and his books but the Christians did not believe in Muhammad (pbuh) as prophet , and Jews did not believe in Jesus (pbuh) and Muhammad (pbuh) .

We the Muslim maybe had more chance to get the heaven .