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why a bible?

sky cake

Member
i belive that many(and at one time me included) use the bible to reinforce there myth formation.

i belive that most christians belive that there path is the only way to heaven, ie the chuch of christ belive that unless your bapitez in there church your going to hell, no matter what you belive.

i belive that the christan religion, at one time killed people that would not belive as thay do, i belive now that they ostersize people, so yes they are learing as they are being margenalized, it would be nice to keep the good in christanity and remove the bad, and yes there is quite a bit bad.
i belive that the christians(religious people) read the bible to reinforce what they have been condition to belive. i belive that religion can constrict peoples ideals, and hopes. ie women and paul.

i belive that if jesus was real, he would have written a "bible" i belive what we have is the saved manuscripts of a changing religion, that any thing that contrary to what we have in the time of the councle of nechi was burned and destroyed, and that the fathers of the church, not god, placed the books in the canton.

i dont belive that god would want a bible, rember when the jews want a king? for a god that professed a personal relationship there is a lot of comunal indocternation. i belive that most religious people have a relationship with there bible, not god. ie i could tell you how great a moutain was, send you pics, and testomoneys from others that have seen it, or i could get you and take you to it and let you decide yourself.

oh and boys scouts, and rule books. there hand book was clearly easer to read, and they dont profess in the killing of the nonbelivers, or the keeping of slaves, or the oppressing of women, or that you get something you dont deserve, the scouts teach accountablity, and not to lie, two things the bible has a problem with.
 

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
i belive that many(and at one time me included) use the bible to reinforce there myth formation.

i belive that most christians belive that there path is the only way to heaven, ie the chuch of christ belive that unless your bapitez in there church your going to hell, no matter what you belive.

i belive that the christan religion, at one time killed people that would not belive as thay do, i belive now that they ostersize people, so yes they are learing as they are being margenalized, it would be nice to keep the good in christanity and remove the bad, and yes there is quite a bit bad.
i belive that the christians(religious people) read the bible to reinforce what they have been condition to belive. i belive that religion can constrict peoples ideals, and hopes. ie women and paul.

i belive that if jesus was real, he would have written a "bible" i belive what we have is the saved manuscripts of a changing religion, that any thing that contrary to what we have in the time of the councle of nechi was burned and destroyed, and that the fathers of the church, not god, placed the books in the canton.

i dont belive that god would want a bible, rember when the jews want a king? for a god that professed a personal relationship there is a lot of comunal indocternation. i belive that most religious people have a relationship with there bible, not god. ie i could tell you how great a moutain was, send you pics, and testomoneys from others that have seen it, or i could get you and take you to it and let you decide yourself.

oh and boys scouts, and rule books. there hand book was clearly easer to read, and they dont profess in the killing of the nonbelivers, or the keeping of slaves, or the oppressing of women, or that you get something you dont deserve, the scouts teach accountablity, and not to lie, two things the bible has a problem with.

What are you saying here that Boy Scouts help old ladies across the street but Christians push them in front of cars?
Accountability, the Bible teaches you are accountable for your own self and your actions.
Bible also teaches not to lie and not to bear false witness.

It didn't tell me about this stupid underwire in my bra though and it is killing me...:p......Sorry but the pain was unbearable, or should I say unBAREABLE

Opression of women, now why do you think Scouts learn to tie knots in those ropes Skycake? :D
 

sky cake

Member
What are you saying here that Boy Scouts help old ladies across the street but Christians push them in front of cars?
Accountability, the Bible teaches you are accountable for your own self and your actions.
Bible also teaches not to lie and not to bear false witness.

It didn't tell me about this stupid underwire in my bra though and it is killing me...:p......Sorry but the pain was unbearable, or should I say unBAREABLE

Opression of women, now why do you think Scouts learn to tie knots in those ropes Skycake? :D

at one time christians did kill for there belife in god, some still do, but that is slowed way down, but may other religions kill for there belifes, they send there babies straped with bomb to kill the infeidale. but it you want a close to home shot, the army of christ's souldgers shoot there own wounded.

yes there are good things in the bible, but so far as accountablity it does teach that you leave everything at the feet of jesus, no? it blames satan for all evilness, no? it teaches that any part of missunderstanding of the bible/church/dogma/pasture/ denomanation/ and or cread is to blame the person that questions, even in lighit of a bad answer. how can we hold god accountable? could we? if we could how would we even know? the problem is too many people belive that they speack for god, and that give them the right to be held as unquestionable, popes and preachers alike, even the bible stands as a belived voice from god, existing beyond, a place of reproch and correction, even thought books have clearly been added and removed. like some written holy virgin that gets pregnate and yet stays a virgin. the bible changes from a holy jewish tomb, to a mesantic jewish tomb, to a catoholic holy tomb, to a prody holy tomb. and all the wile it remains a "clear, and correct voice of god" the problem is nothing matters when you dealing with faith, its all makebelive.

false whitness? the bible teaches against it? yet god is ok with sending lieing sperits to allow armys and kings in the ot to be fooled into battle, god allows paroh's heart to be hardened. god stands quited in the presants of all the fase gods that ever were, and by allowing there belife to be spread acts as provayer of false witness.

your underwire? there was a little unknown book that was cut out of the canton, the Book of the Twins. from the "sermon on the mounds" ch12. virse30 states "30. and them that cast a way thy wire of under holding, and let free thy orbs of goodlyness, are free indeed. 31. whenst thou hast, girls gone zelots, so shall may beads be given unto thee.32. for blessed is she that shakes and jiggles for her milkskakes bringith all the boys to the yard. 33. and varly it is indeed better than thoust.'

boyscouts and ropes brings to mind david caridean, religions tend to cover the darkness of our souls with hope and little more, holding out that god will come and remove our darkness, keeps too many in darkness too long. hope is not a bad thing, but when it stops us from trying, it stops us from beeing. and in the end we find ourselfs dangling from the rope of hope in the closit of religion, dead on the line.
 

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
at one time christians did kill for there belife in god, some still do, but that is slowed way down, but may other religions kill for there belifes, they send there babies straped with bomb to kill the infeidale. but it you want a close to home shot, the army of christ's souldgers shoot there own wounded.

yes there are good things in the bible, but so far as accountablity it does teach that you leave everything at the feet of jesus, no? it blames satan for all evilness, no? it teaches that any part of missunderstanding of the bible/church/dogma/pasture/ denomanation/ and or cread is to blame the person that questions, even in lighit of a bad answer. how can we hold god accountable? could we? if we could how would we even know? the problem is too many people belive that they speack for god, and that give them the right to be held as unquestionable, popes and preachers alike, even the bible stands as a belived voice from god, existing beyond, a place of reproch and correction, even thought books have clearly been added and removed. like some written holy virgin that gets pregnate and yet stays a virgin. the bible changes from a holy jewish tomb, to a mesantic jewish tomb, to a catoholic holy tomb, to a prody holy tomb. and all the wile it remains a "clear, and correct voice of god" the problem is nothing matters when you dealing with faith, its all makebelive.

false whitness? the bible teaches against it? yet god is ok with sending lieing sperits to allow armys and kings in the ot to be fooled into battle, god allows paroh's heart to be hardened. god stands quited in the presants of all the fase gods that ever were, and by allowing there belife to be spread acts as provayer of false witness.

your underwire? there was a little unknown book that was cut out of the canton, the Book of the Twins. from the "sermon on the mounds" ch12. virse30 states "30. and them that cast a way thy wire of under holding, and let free thy orbs of goodlyness, are free indeed. 31. whenst thou hast, girls gone zelots, so shall may beads be given unto thee.32. for blessed is she that shakes and jiggles for her milkskakes bringith all the boys to the yard. 33. and varly it is indeed better than thoust.'

boyscouts and ropes brings to mind david caridean, religions tend to cover the darkness of our souls with hope and little more, holding out that god will come and remove our darkness, keeps too many in darkness too long. hope is not a bad thing, but when it stops us from trying, it stops us from beeing. and in the end we find ourselfs dangling from the rope of hope in the closit of religion, dead on the line.

Amazing that you should mention "Book of the Twins since I'm a Gemini....:eek:

I'm not sure how hope could ever be a bad thing, and hope doesn't have to be based on a religious agenda. Although to the Christian hope seems to have a deeper meaning. Hope doesn't keep us from trying but only boosts our determination further.....
I'm sure you have hopes and dreams of something and don't stop until you achieve your goal......
As far as the Bible I know there are many discrepancies and I don't hold to the fact that it is the word of God, but the inspired word of God. I guess that would be 2nd hand information though wouldn't it? He said, she said that He said....;)
 

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
why does god allow men to edit the bible?

That is a good question, since the Bible says not to take anything away from it or add anything to it.....sort of paraphrased....
But afterall a lot of the Bible is paraphrased or left to the writers own interpretation....;)
 

sky cake

Member
well... it is a human document. Why (or in what way) could or would God forbid such activity?
ummm i dont know, maybe because the mind of men are easly confused, and a edited human document that at best is vage about the conduct of human to human and human to god conduct, really searves as a sudo-god, much like the golden calf, most humans want some thing they can posses and dance around in frount of. god forbid a god that requiers you act out of kindness and exceptance. just and obersataion, chrisanity is not unified, they do worship a same comunal god, but there belife are vastly diffrent, and they hate each other. i think a paper bible contributes to the disunion. it allowes its followers to pick and chooses, and make it up as it goes. it produces people like jim jones and david korish. and for the common religion person it stops there personal religious search, as the group polices there members, and controls what they think buy seting the standards by which there religion is based and judged on. faith does not come by hearing the word of god, indoctranation come by hearing the word of god. so i belive that with out a bible we would have more faith, because we would have to.
 

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
does god need a bible to save mens souls?

No, God doesn't need a Bible to save men's souls, but it is only an inspirational tool used to get us where we want to go....You know sort of like a road map, we may know the direction but from time to time we need a little help just to make sure we are on the right road...

Why A Bible? I personally like mine because it is in a leopard case and it looks quite fashionable when I carry it.....:D
 
so jesus did not have A BIBLE? you mean none of the christins had a bible, it was not to 400 years after jesus? you mean the catholic church edited the bible? you mean the prodys cut out the caltholic books? you mean king james was not the wrighter of the kj bible?
 
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