Let's take computer software as an example. When you look at a screen you may see a car. But is it a car - no it is a set of electrons and photons (and probably some other -tons) which have been arranged in a manner as to appear as a car.
WRONG! If you press on a letter on your keyboard (say an A), and almost instantly an A appears on the screen, do you think a miniature 'A' has been propelled along the wires and through the electronics until it arrives on the screen, where it is then magnifed? Is that what the screen is - just a big magnifying glass?
Perception might suggest this is what happens, and indeed if it was what happens, then you can argue all you like that the 'A' and the rest of the software is physical. But surely you realise that, despite what our eyes might suggest, apart from the microns-thick paint on the key, there is no physical 'A'.
So all software is actually hardware - it is physical.
If you say it enough times whilst believing it to be so ... well it is bound to be right, huh?
WRONG!
We misleadingly call it software because it is not the kind of matter we are normally used to. But it is matter. In other words, software should not have been included in a list containing thoughts and moods. Software is real and physical
What you are proving again and again is that when someone is bound hand, foot and heart into their religious beliefs, well it's basically a pointless waste of time to show them otherwise, for they simply cannot deal with reality or logic while they are so drilled with delusion. Hey I like you Thanda, but you are proving yourself as just a little naive.
Did I say a little???
thoughts and moods are not.
So if they are not real, why and how can they possibly control your every thought, choice and subsequent action? If you think they don't, then you sure need a crash course in consciousness.
Now I am not saying thoughts are not important.
If thoughts don't exist, then they are something like the pink unicorn with purple stripes under the cabbage leaf at the bottom of your garden. So is that how important they are?
But what I'm saying is that thoughts on their own are meaningless. They only gain meaning and significance when they cause a physical event.
But what you're choosing to ignore, is that NOTHING, zero would happen, no event would be made physical if the thought didn't come first. This in itself makes the
SPIRITUAL realm the master over the physical servant, for the physical is clearly a product of the invisible
SPIRITUAL realm - the same as you seek to deny in favour of your physical.
But it must be noted that you are not alone in your serious misunderstanding.
By extension this means that if God is not a physical entity then he is at the same level as a thought, mood or dream. He is meaningless, formless and nothingness. So before God created the Heavens and the Earth, he himself was nothing. Remember a thought resides on a physical plain.
No it doesn't. It's quite the opposite in fact, as I have shown you many times over. It's the physical realm that exists as a result of the SPIRITUAL (or if you prefer - thought). But you can't negotiate this due to your fascination with a physical god/creator - being just like a physical man.
So, for example your memories (spiritual thing - as you call it) will disappear if your brain (a physical thing) gets damaged sufficiently. So if God is not himself a physical entity, then before the creation he didn't exist since spiritual things (as you call them) need a physical place in which to live.
Again you have the cart before the horse, back to front. The Spiritual needs no physical place in which to live. For one thing - life (to live) is SPIRITUAL, so again - it's the physical that needs the spiritual. Secondly the Spirit is most definitely NOT A THING - as you understand the term at least. Therefore and again - God has no physicality, so is NOT and has never been a thing, in the physical sense.
So in other words we would be saying that a God who did not exist (since being a thought/consciousness he had no place to reside before the physical creation) created a physical world that exists. Now that is what I call ludicrous!
It's only your ludicrous presumption that a thought does not exist, even though you can't for a second explain why something that you argue doesn't exist controls your every waking moment and every action you ever make. You might do well to look into how the neurons in the brain are born, from prior to the birth of the individual - from where they first emerge, and how they organise themselves with astounding precision - indeed even before there is anything like a physical brain. So if thought doesn't exist, how do you think these tiny newborn cells actually think and know to organise themselves - well before the physical brain (in which to think) has formed?
But as thought (yours at least) doesn't exist, then maybe I shouldn't wait for an answer, huh?
In any case Thanda, you appear unable to bring anything new to this discussion, so I'll leave it right there, and you with your illogical and religious delusions.