Why are Atheists on Religiousforums?

[FreeTHinker4eva]

Well, let's get past you ASSUMPTION of the divine if we can; I believe ignorance is greater than deception; I'm not conference with personal salvation; and I believe the path forward is to engage in open discussion; THAT IS WHY I'M HERE.

I admit it is very difficult to explain, and impossible to communicate 100% precisely; after attending church for several decades, after earning several advance degrees including a masters in ecology, evolution and organismal biology; after being a baptist minister for a decade and receiving honors at seminary; after reading the protesttant bible cover to cover 7 times and reading excerpts uncountable times; just how certain my knowledge is.

And yet I am a 'functional' atheist..i.e. I will not assert the non-existence of a super-nature; but I will assert the absolute insignificance of a super-nature to the here and now.

My question would be what god would place the belief in himself above the human condition, here and now?

You question begs this question..What makes you think "..What God would place the belief in 'himself' above the human condition here and now?" -is true?

 

[Smart_Guy]

I think we need atheists here. Some of them are indeed a pain in the ay, but some others give RF a special feel... in a positive way. I guess that goes with religion followers too, but still, atheists are special.

 

[McBell]

Why do you call those who believe in God ignorant, and other names? There is a difference between what people believe, and name calling. If you have problems dealing with other people, you should sign up to talk to Dr Phil. Your name calling just shows you have problems you do not know how to work out...that tells the members who read your post that you are either just a child, or adult who's thinking is on a child's level. It is clear you need help.

Ouch.
Sad really.

 

[leibowde84]

Your post on #11 of this thread:

"To teach the ignorant. Theist and atheist included".

Uhhh ... are you being sarcastic. The second sentence, "theist and atheist included" directly states that he was not calling anyone ignorant due to them being a theist. I think you just proved his point by misreading his comment.

 

[NoX]

How so? Or better, how anymore than you have with your intendedly posited posts? You stated that atheism religion, which there is none of, is more dangerous than religion. You did not back up your position with credible sources at all. It was stated to denigrate atheists and was completely erroneous to boot.

I will never run away, as long as you do not start to be boring if I dont reply your post anymore, just remember that you started to be boring and your sayings cannot get my interest enough.

 

[leibowde84]

Because atheism is also a religion, its a religion with one certain rule, "there is no rule."

Saying that "there are no rules" in atheism doesn't make any sense. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a deity. It is not a system of beliefs or religious rules, it is merely the lack of 1 single belief. So, as such, it really is not a religion, much less an organized religion that would include "rules."

Religion = "a particular system of faith and worship."

Now, some atheists do actively believe that God cannot exist. They are by no means the majority of atheists, though. Most just lack belief. Further, even these strict atheists would not make up a "religion," as there is no system of faith that they all adhere to, and there is no "worshiping" that goes on at all.

 

[psychoslice]

Theistic belief defends the existence of God based on their own logic. A-theistic belief defends the non-existence of God based on their own logic. Both offers their own suggestions about an uncertainty. (uncertainty according to the valuations of human senses). Being nuetral and being atheist, these two concepts are often mixing with each other.



Theist - Nuetral - Atheist

Even so, atheist by itself is not a religion.

 

[Ouroboros]

Even so, atheist by itself is not a religion.

No, but Chocolatism most definitely is! I worship Chocolate!!! Yay!

 

[JoStories]

I will never run away, as long as you do not start to be boring if I dont reply your post anymore, just remember that you started to be boring and your sayings cannot get my interest enough.

I would not want anyone to run away and my post was rude so I apologize. Off day I guess. I will never make excuses but this really has been a dang Monday! Sorry.

 

[The Neo Nerd]

Theistic belief defends the existence of God based on their own logic. A-theistic belief defends the non-existence of God based on their own logic. Both offers their own suggestions about an uncertainty. (uncertainty according to the valuations of human senses). Being nuetral and being atheist, these two concepts are often mixing with each other.

There is no theist logic and atheist logic.

There is just logic.

 

[leibowde84]

I meant what I said, and so did Jesus. Pretty brazen of you to call people liars, but then liars assume everyone else is
a liar, so while you're making assumptions you can assume that you're not really fooling anybody but yourself. Ciao.

You were?! Did you understand what he meant. Because it was extremely civil and honest. He, like me, is against assumptions or speculation that is not recognized as such. How could you have a problem with that. Or are you assuming that you "know our kind?"

 

[Sapiens]

You brood of vipers, how can you speak good things, when your heart is evil?

See, there's your dishonesty in full flower. You have no idea of where my heart lies on an axis that runs from good to evil.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Theistic belief defends the existence of God based on their own logic. A-theistic belief defends the non-existence of God based on their own logic. Both offers their own suggestions about an uncertainty. (uncertainty according to the valuations of human senses). Being nuetral and being atheist, these two concepts are often mixing with each other.



Theist - Nuetral - Atheist

Atheism, in and of itself, doesn't really offer anything, or any sort of claim. Just a lack of belief in God(s).
However, atheists obviously don't base their lives around this, and have other beliefs, understandings, biases, etc that they use in judging the world, like all people.

Don't see atheism as a religion in any sense of the word, but I suspect what is meant is that some atheists take a religious-like approach to some of the other beliefs they hold.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Atheists come to religious forums, chat rooms, Courts, etc., because it is impossible to ignore God.

Replace 'God' with 'Religion' and you make an outstanding point.

 

[Sapiens]

The real joke here is that there is not a single person posting here who is not an atheist when it comes to a whole passel of deities.

 

[Ouroboros]

There is no theist logic and atheist logic.

There is just logic.

Probably true. (fuzzy logic there, like Electric Ceiling Cat logic)

But...

Chocolate Logic must exist, or there's no purpose in life...

 

[Domenic]

Being against organized religion is not intrinsically evil. There is no malice necessary to being so. A lot of people honestly feel that organized religion causes much more harm than good to the global society. They should be free and encouraged to join in the discussion and express their point of view and reasoning behind it. Having ill-will toward all of them is EXACTLY THE SAME as those that insult Islam generally. There is nothing that makes the religious "better" in any way than the non-religious.

I agree with you 100%. All religions are from man, and not from God. I believe in God, his son Jesus, and Gods written words as from the scrolls. Anything else is BS.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Cheer up Atheists, i love you all just like i love toothache. Without you it would be boring on RF.

 

[Jumi]

Is it really that hard to be nice, servant?

 

[ether-ore]

Yes I will deny that.



Im sorry but if you choose to debate with me, I require honesty and a certain level of comprehension.

I never said anything close to what you posit.

Fanaticism and fundamentalism is not the definition of Theism, is it?

Quoting you from a previous post: "We fight fanaticism and fundamentalism as it is the enemy of humanity. And we need not mock or ridicule those who refuse knowledge, they do a fine job all by themselves. Much of what many educated theist have long abandoned. There is no atheist theism separation here, its education and those who refuse it."

You don't deny that the Christian belief that homosexuality is immoral is wrong?

You say that you never claimed that educated theists have not abandoned or refused knowledge. Ok, help me out here; with the sentence "Much of what many educated theist have long abandoned"..,. what are you referring to? What have they abandoned? The only thing I can see that statement pointing to is the word 'knowledge' in the previous sentence where you say 'they' have refused knowledge. If I am wrong, I think you need to be more clear with your sentence structure.

You did a very good job of masking what you mean when you deny that fanaticism and fundamentalism define theism. Fanaticism and fundamentalism are not synonymous or even complimentary but either can be used to define theism; depending on who specifically you are referring to. Using them together is at best as a mask to cover several meanings as well as what you really mean. I am no fanatic, but by one definition, I might be called a fundamentalist. I don't refer to myself as such, but I suppose someone else might make that claim and I don't think I would necessarily be offended by it. By clouding your statements with imprecise language, I recognize that you are attempting to avoid coming right out and exposing your point of view. Suffice it to say that a preponderance of atheistic posts in this or any other forum is that atheists do indeed consider theists the enemy of humanity. At present, I don't suppose that it is to your advantage to come right out and openly expose your contempt for theists. For the time being, atheists will be content with continuing to hint or imply that theists are sadly mentally deficient and otherwise insulting our intelligence.

You require honesty and a certain level of comprehension... <grin> Your contempt is showing.