Why are Atheists on Religiousforums?

[FearGod]

"Some" of us are pretty much anything that people can be, I suppose.

But saying it the way you just did often gives a mistaken impression that there is a significant positive correlation between atheism and "being evil".

And that, frankly, is the opposite of truth far as I can tell.

I didn't mean all atheists but those who fight religion and as far as i can tell that it's the evil's job to misguide humans.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I didn't mean all atheists but those who fight religion and as far as i can tell that it's the evil's job to misguide humans.

"Religion" in general? But most religions are opposed to Islam. Are you saying that it's evil to fight anti-Islamic religions? If so, why?

Frankly, if you think that Islam is the truth, I'd think that you should have a bigger problem with other religions than you do with atheists.

 

[LuisDantas]

I didn't mean all atheists but those who fight religion and as far as i can tell that it's the evil's job to misguide humans.

Then I fear we will simply not reach much of an agreement.

 

[FearGod]

Yep, some are. Some aren't. This sentence ALSO makes sense;
Evils actually exist everywhere, i don't mean that all theists are evils but some of them are.

Yes i agree, they're called hypocrites, evils wearing a religious mask, the extremists is one example.

 

[FearGod]

"Religion" in general? But most religions are opposed to Islam. Are you saying that it's evil to fight anti-Islamic religions? If so, why?

Frankly, if you think that Islam is the truth, I'd think that you should have a bigger problem with other religions than you do with atheists.

Religion according to my understanding is about morals,ethics, good deeds and to avoid any harm to any human being.
I ain't so fond in opposing other religions but to discuss my own and opposing atheism.

 

[NoX]

But that's not a religion.

Theistic belief defends the existence of God based on their own logic. A-theistic belief defends the non-existence of God based on their own logic. Both offers their own suggestions about an uncertainty. (uncertainty according to the valuations of human senses). Being nuetral and being atheist, these two concepts are often mixing with each other.



Theist - Nuetral - Atheist

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Religion according to my understanding is about morals,ethics, good deeds and to avoid any harm to any human being.

I don't think that religion has ever been about any of those things.

I ain't so fond in opposing other religions but to discuss my own and opposing atheism.

Why?

 

[NoX]

More people who claim to be religious are more 'evil' than atheists. And btw, define evil and how it manifests scientifically, making sure you differentiate that from people simply making extremely bad choices.

Should remember to proof read, even here!

This is right and atheism religion is much more dangerous than any other religions. Because all religions have certain rules and you can imagine about the limits of a religious person. But you cant imagine for an atheist, everything may be allowable for them, individually for every single atheist. Everyhing may be moral. While to steal something from others is considered as a big crime by a religion, it may be quite natural for an atheist that depending on the current situation or depending on personal interests. LoL by the way please dont get it offensive , firstly I though to give an example over murder.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Theistic belief defends the existence of God based on their own logic. A-theistic belief defends the non-existence of God based on their own logic.

No, it doesn't.

The theist asserts that there is a god or gods; the atheist responds with "I'm not convinced".

The burden is on the person making the claim. You don't need to scour every inch of Ireland to be justified in not living as if leprechauns exist.

 

[LuisDantas]

Theistic belief defends the existence of God based on their own logic. A-theistic belief defends the non-existence of God based on their own logic.

I don't approve of twisting and abusing the definition of "logic" to the breaking point like that, sorry.

 

[Robert Landbeck]

To annoy religionists?
To become religionists?

There is probably no other intellectual endeavor and body of ideas so lacking in critical self scrutiny as religion. And atheists have valid questions on the nature of religion that remain to be answered. Faith has yet to Deliver on its Promise. So long as that is the case, the efficacy of religious claims remain suspect. And the pews continue to empty as a result. The Final Freedoms

 

[NoX]

No, it doesn't.

The theist asserts that there is a god or gods; the atheist responds with "I'm not convinced".

The burden is on the person making the claim. You don't need to scour every inch of Ireland to be justified in not living as if leprechauns exist.

Wrong.

As I said in my pre post, we are at the same distance for the same uncertainty. I dont need to prove anything because its called "belief", we say "we believe in God", but you have to prove the non-existence of God, because you are directly saying "there is no God", you dont say "we dont believe in the existence of a God."

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Wrong.

As I said in my pre post, we are at the same distance for the same uncertainty.

What's this even supposed to mean?

I dont need to prove anything because its called "belief", we say "we believe in God",

I agree that there's nothing stopping you or anyone else from holding beliefs without justification.

In any case, even if you don't follow up your statement of belief with "...and you should believe it, too", many theists do. If you aren't one of these theists, then you're really just inserting yourself into a conversation that hasn't included you so far.

but you have to prove the non-existence of God, because you are directly saying "there is no God", you dont say "we dont believe in the existence of a God."

Don't presume to tell me what I do and don't say.

 

[JoStories]

This is right and atheism religion is much more dangerous than any other religions. Because all religions have certain rules and you can imagine about the limits of a religious person. But you cant imagine for an atheist, everything may be allowable for them, individually for every single atheist. Everyhing may be moral. While to steal something from others is considered as a big crime by a religion, it may be quite natural for an atheist that depending on the current situation or depending on personal interests. LoL by the way please dont get it offensive , firstly I though to give an example over murder.

I could not disagree with you more if I tried to. I was raised by people who,saw fit to introduce me to Judaism, Christianity, Native American culture and faith, Quakerism, and atheism. Of all of those people, far and above, the most moral was my atheistic father. And btw, atheism has no religion. Otoh, I have known some of the most immoral religious people. People who murdered for the mob, including children and claimed they had 'found Jesus' so they were saved. And let' s not forget Muslims that murder women for nothing whatsoever. Shall we discuss the moral aptitude of Fred phelps? Or David koresh? Or so many others I could name. I would say, on the grand scale of things, those who espouse to follow a faith and beleive me, they fall far short of their 'rules', religious people are some of the most morally bankrupt people I have had the displeasure of having to read about or know.

 

[LuisDantas]

What's this even supposed to mean?

Apparently it is an example of Balance Fallacy centered on the idea that we can't say for certain whether there is a god.

Balance fallacy - RationalWiki

This is right and atheism religion is much more dangerous than any other religions.

That would not be true even if the premise were accurate, you know.

Because all religions have certain rules and you can imagine about the limits of a religious person. But you cant imagine for an atheist, everything may be allowable for them, individually for every single atheist. Everyhing may be moral. While to steal something from others is considered as a big crime by a religion, it may be quite natural for an atheist that depending on the current situation or depending on personal interests. LoL by the way please dont get it offensive , firstly I though to give an example over murder.

I take it that you think morals are largely defined by rules? Or, for that matter, that adhering to a religion is significant evidence of fulfilling that religion's rules of behavior without hypocrisy or self-serving redefinitions?

I don't think there is much substance there, personally.

 

[Domenic]

Why are Atheists on Religiousforums?

To teach the ignorant. Theist and atheist included.

Why are you here? is the real question

Why do you call those who believe in God ignorant, and other names? There is a difference between what people believe, and name calling. If you have problems dealing with other people, you should sign up to talk to Dr Phil. Your name calling just shows you have problems you do not know how to work out...that tells the members who read your post that you are either just a child, or adult who's thinking is on a child's level. It is clear you need help.

 

[LuisDantas]

I don't think you read that post very carefully.

 

[FreeTHinker4eva]

To annoy religionists?
To become religionists?

Atheists come to religious forums, chat rooms, Courts, etc., because it is impossible to ignore God.

 

[NoX]

Atheists come to religious forums, chat rooms, Courts, etc., because it is impossible to ignore God.

LoL you are going to turn this topic into a war zone

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Atheists come to religious forums, chat rooms, Courts, etc., because it is impossible to ignore God.

Which one?